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04-13-2008, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaydelart View Post
I agree with you to a point. However, I disagree with the argument that there is no such thing as 'Good' and 'Evil'. Although perspective may greatly influence your definition of either... Such sides as 'Good' and 'Evil' do exist in life.

Take a murder, for example (*warning gruesome content below*): A man kidnaps a young boy and takes him out to sea on an old boat. Once confident in the privacy of his location, he then sexually assaults the boy, and, afterwards, stabs him to death.

Now let's take it a step further to better express my point (*warning gruesome content below*):

The man then takes the body of the lifeless child and beheads him... Eventually dumping his head and headless corpse in seperate locations of the ocean.

Note: Such things have happened in history -- In some cases, even more gory.

He - according to you - is not 'evil'. It is merely a matter of perspective; "There is no such thing as evil."

*My "example murder" does have a lot of flaws, and is somewhat vague. If it is too difficult to understand, please, replace my example with any other malicious homicide that you can recall, or think of.

Perspective may determine who you consider your enemy (and/or your opposite), but it does not disprove the existence of 'Good' and 'Evil'.

'Good' and 'Evil' does exist.
Okay, in replacing event I am now thinking of a little girl, 7 years, who was raped and strangled and thrown into a gutter.

It is hard to consider such an event as not evil, as it is hard wired into our brain. But evil is not a physical thing. It is not a real thing. Think about it. In no place is evil actually physical or real. It is a concept. A part of the brain. One stone crashing the walls of another and creating a vacant echo, nothing more. Now, we can pull up an event, such as what we both mentioned, in which 95% of the world would consider to be evil. Or we can get other events, which some consider to be just as evil, but others consider to be plausible as okay. I give one, when Vietnam was napalmed and children had their skin burnt off with fire. I would class it as just as evil as what we both mentioned, but not everyone agrees that the US is evil. From this we can see evil is an entirly perspective idea, and not a real thing. It can never be prcise or determined. And is always dependant. For example, one person might not consider the sex with the little girl as an actual evil thing, but only the strangle part as evil, or the rape part as evil, but other people will just say sex with children is evil no matter what. Or say that the US bombing was evil, but necessary, so it becomes okay, or lesser evil. It is very obvious now that evil is not real, it is a shape shifting idea manifested by man for entirly different purposes other than defining a just path in life. In fact, I would say it is there for the complete opposite.

But now you see, no? There are different levels of physical action, aggression, brutality, crimson, and so on, but the actual concept behind these actions are so hazy they become classed as okay given circumstance and situation. Meaning, by your sense, it is not actually the rape of that boy that was evil, it was the idea in the mans head. And you are saying crime is not determined by the action, but by the reason behind it, or lack of. Belief in these ideas is going to seal the fate of millions were you a man of power. I think I know which of the 2 makes up evil. The one that is real. In which I dont call evil, it is just what it is, action. Ideas are illusions.


Even if it seems certain that you will lose, retaliate. Neither wisdom nor technique has a place in this. A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.

May the Demon find you...
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