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05-15-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y View Post
Now you are putting words to what you've misunderstood.
I never said that I am now calling it an "urge". I said that the URGE makes someone commit an ACT which can be CONTROLLED. Hence, it is a CHOICE.
I hope that makes it clearer for you.
As for rapes and murders with accompanied benefit, isn't that the same as homosexuality or any act of sexual intercourse? The benefit being sexual gratification.
That is ALL it is.
It seems I will have to repeat my argument once again seeing as you don't seem to grasp it.
The act of murder, rape, child abuse etc are all ACTS. Whether they are ACTS of passion or not, the person committing such ACTS still has a choice whether to go ahead with the ACT or not. This is how I am comparing these to ACTS of Homosexuality.
As for suppressing your ACTS of heterosexuality, you can. Ever heard of celibacy?
You only think you can't because you have never tried
There's nothing wrong with Heterosexuality though when done properly since it is the natural way which sexual intercourse should take place.
At the end of the day, all you are arguing about is whether it is right or wrong to seek sexual gratification via the same sex.
I believe it is wrong. It is backed up by the fact that we are not MADE to have sex any other way and that the final result of sexual intercourse from the perspective of our bodies, is to procreate.



Huh? Ever heard of Lust? As i've said a few times now, whether it is heterosexual or homosexual, the sex aspect is the same.



And this is why this is a moral argument more than anything else. Does condoning freedom for sexual acts make you immoral?
I guess that's something you'll have to ask and face yourself.



I'd say the father of the White family raising the Black child would actually instill the discipline that the Lesbian couple could not. Also a sense of honour and how to accept your own identity. There could also be negatives, like how the child learns its prejudices and whatnot but that is in a negative situation. In a positive situation with a lesbian couple vs the normal couple, a normal couple will win out EVERY time.



Oh I think it does as outlined earlier.



If you "wanted" to be a painter. You were not "born" a painter. Therefore you don't even have that issue unless you stumble across it by your own design. Why does that analogy even fit here?
If you were born a Lesbian, it is your CHOICE to get into a Lesbian relationship and not be capable of having children naturally. If you want children, be in a heterosexual relationship. Get over the URGES that make you want to perform ACTS of sex with others of the same sex just for your own sexual gratification. Take the natural path that you are meant to take for your sake as for the child.



No that is rather wrong. She is a Lesbian by nature maybe but urges can be controlled. It is her test in life.
Giving into that urge means she is weak.

ivi0nk3y, it's always a pleasure to go head to head with you. The bottom line is we have different moral backgrounds, and nothing is ever going to change that. To you, acts of homosexuality are sins, and to me they are not.

I am glad you acknowledge gays and lesbians are born that way, and it isn't a choice that a heterosexual person makes, because that isn't a choice any sane person would make.