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Originally Posted by Wasabista
Yeah, Dworkin was a radical feminist all right. And David Duke is a radical racist.
Miss Misa, I'm sorry but if that reply was intended to rebut my argument, it seems to have had the opposite effect. You've confirmed the intent and malice of three of the four quotes, and your support for the first one was lame. Just imagine the hue and cry if a man said, "All women are useless!"
Again, I'm all in favor of equal rights (and responsibilities) for women. In fact, I consider it an urgent priority. But feminism has less to do with this noble goal with each passing year, and I oppose it.
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I never said a man needs a women either. The statement is not 'men are useless' the statement is that women do not need a man. The same as a man does not need a women. What's wrong with that? Nothing.
All those quotes were from radical feminists. I was not defending radical feminism, yet all those quotes came from radical feminists, so really it had no relevance to what I was defending and that was what I was trying to tell you.
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Originally Posted by Bureda
No man needs a woman either, but in the end who would want to die alone and crusty. Its called a mutual understanding. The natural law of life: reproduction.
Okay, the societies have given females freedom and how do they act? They act just like males. Fantasising about men, famous people and all that.
The female world population is greater than the male. We may think naughty thoughts of our counterpart sisters, the females, but in the end it boils down to logical thinking. We know to give respect to receive respect.
Some crimes are committed over female influence, but then again her thinking is nasty, she must have had one dry vagina. Its a good extreme view to study but not to follow.
Female Jail awaits that thinking.
Note: I have not chosen sides, I have generalised my points. It the end it boils down to mutual understanding.
You are meant to study these views and draw a mutual conclusion out of them, not follow them.
Everyone deservers respect and quality, not matter of gender. Nobody escapes the law of nature, that's about it.
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There is nothing wrong with having a partner. There is nothing wrong with being alone. Everyone has different ideas of what they want life to be like. The point in feminism is to give people that
choice. Many people do not want children. Many people would be happy to be without a partner. I couldn't care either way, and now I have that choice because I'm able to sustain myself without the support of a man, because in my country I am able to get a well paying job. It was not always like that.
Let me clarify what I think. I do not support radical feminism. As I have already said, judging feminists by radical feminists is like judging muslims by extremist muslim terrorists. They both say and do terrible things by twisting existing beliefs. I support any kind of feminism that promotes equality. I do not support the idea that women are better than men. I support equal pay and equal rights - some of which do not exist for women in some countries today. Feminism is not a bad thing, unless it is extremist, but I can assure you those are the minority, just as all extremists are the minority. There are bad apples within every organisation.
Coming back at me with quotes from radical feminists is pointless, I've already said I do not support radical feminism. That isn't the only type of feminism, nor is it the biggest, and if you are inclined to believe so then I can't think of any other way to describe you but ignorant.