[MMM]

Originally Posted by clintjm

The fact is he was giving shout-outs, smiles, and talking about the great work accomplished before talking about a horrific disaster. He should go right into and then rush right off to get an update. The fact that he didn't shows it wasn't important to him, a low priority, it was something he had to do.

Are you actually serious? You are examining this more closely than Miss Manners. No whistle, no foul. Sorry, Clint, but we both have bigger fish to fry.

Originally Posted by clintjm

If this is "standard protocol" then the bull shite does walk.

Reagan never lost his cool. Bush I didn't lose his cool. Clinton never lost his cool. But for some reason the fact that Obama shows leadership by not losing his cool makes him a poor leader. The logic escapes me.

Originally Posted by clintjm

I don't remember any president ever doing such a thing.

Again, so he is a poor leader because he can keep it together? This is the last I will comment on something so ingratiatingly petty.

Originally Posted by clintjm

I said I would take tears or anger over what he calls leadership in a moment of crisis.

No you wouldn't.

You would send him up the flagpole for losing his cool and not being a leader in a time of crisis.

Originally Posted by clintjm

He could really care less.

That is a bold and baseless statement. Do you really think he doesn't care? Really?

Originally Posted by clintjm

The fact is I believe pass presidents, including Clinton and both Bush presidents, did care when such disasters or pending disasters with Americans occurred.

Statements like this are borderline offensive. Now the president doesn't even have human emotions? He is like a robot?

This is the what gets the tea party followers into situations where they are making threats to people as they don't see them as human anymore. (And don't call them Tea Partiers. The tea party movement is not a political party. They just use the term "tea party" but that is different from a political party.)

Originally Posted by clintjm

建前 comes to mind everytime I see or hear Obama speak.... with good reason.


The videos and past lies speak for themselves.

Yes. You have trained yourself to be critical of everything this president does. Good or bad. You are a member of a large group of people that nit-picks ever move our president makes. I would say pull out, look at the big picture.

Originally Posted by clintjm

Rush probably would , like the majority of Americans, because its obvious from these videos and countless other reason that no one really trusts or believes him.

Reread your own sentence and tell me if you actually think it is based in fact.

Originally Posted by clintjm

The fact that you even bring this possibility up gives me the belief that even you wouldn't believe it. From his politics we also don't believe he has all of the American people and the people in the military in his best interest.

Again...no win. Pulls out of Iraq and Afghanistan...he loses. Follows Bush's policies...he loses. You are a part of the perfect debate team that is all naysaying and little substance.

Originally Posted by clintjm

The CBO estimate was only preliminary before the DOC fix and the extra IRS employement and ammendments. And of course... the CBO hasn't got the greatest track record on accuracy.

No one has the greatest track record in history because we are talking about future estimate of things that haven't happened.

All I am saying is that when you hear this 1 trillion number said with such concrete actuality and don't question it, you are being as blind as you think I am being.

Originally Posted by clintjm

Where is that polling data MMM? I want to see my charts upside down and how wrong those numbers I posted were. Tell me more about the crazy Tea Party. Even CNN is turning on you. I wonder if the administration is going to ban them like FOX.

I am glad you are aware that CNN is moving to the right. Tea partiers are popular news.

I simply said that your source was not Gallup but was a conservative polling group. Their numbers tend to be lower than non-partisan pollers. They have been criticized for asking leading questions.

But why not post this pic



Same source, different answer, and puts Obama at just under 50%.

The last Gallup Poll rating (ending 4/6) has Obama's approval rating at 50% and disapproval rating at 46%. That's Gallup and that's your numbers upside down. The (conservative) Washington Post has his approval rating at 53% and disapproval at 43%. That's Washington Post and your numbers upside down. You asked for it and you got it.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

Originally Posted by clintjm

Tell me again how "I know I get this" "you are smarter than this Clint" "you are a part of a no win argument" and that I'm "petty petty petty".... maybe you'll make your argument stronger.

I guess I was wrong. Maybe you don't get this, and maybe you are not smarter than this, Clint.