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05-25-2008, 05:34 AM

I'm at about 600-700 (writing and reading) after a year of intensive study. I'm shooting for the 2000 also!
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05-25-2008, 06:25 AM

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i know like...none but its mainly only because the characters wont show up on my computer. it makes me so sad though because I wanna learn but not able
I never used a computer when I was studying. The excuses find you.

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I'm at about 600-700 (writing and reading) after a year of intensive study. I'm shooting for the 2000 also!
You are doing great!
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05-25-2008, 08:22 AM

I know about 110 of them, after two years of self learning after work and dinner. But since the last years I didn't really had the time to learn more, so the number didn't rise (but hopefully I didn't forget one of them)

Little trick for KikiBunny and others:

If you have MSmincho font on your computer, so go in MS word:
- here (warning, it would be long to configurate), click on the "insert" then "special characters", then select "MSmincho" in the window, then while seeking on the character chart you'll find the hiragana, katakana and CJK kanji.
- select one and affect a combination of your own to each character you need, beware it would be save not only on the current document but in normal.dot

examples of combination I did:

Kanas
Alt + k,a: hiragana "ka"
Alt + Shift + k,a: katakana "ka"
Ctrl + Alt + y,o: little hiragana "yo" --> for writing "Kyô" for example
Ctrl + Alt + Shift + y,o: same in katakana

! if you do a combination with Alt (or Alt + Shift) + n alone after configurating na, ni, nu, ne, no, it wouldn't happen nothing

So for kana "n", use something like Alt + q!

Kanjis:

It si evident you can't configure all the kanjis by combination: but I you know until 200/300 of them it would be efficient for little work:

examples that I made:

ctrl + n,i: kanji of sun: ni/nichi/hi...
ctrl + t,t: kanji of turtle: kame (used t,t as I used Ctrl + k,a before for the fire...)
You have the choice to make the most easy combinations to remind, but don't forget to print a chart with all the kanji combination you have configured, it would be useful!

I'm not using my normal PC actually. After coming back again on it, I'll try to attach my special normal.dot on this topic for those who don't have time to configure (I forgot to say that for kanjis you'll have to seek them one by one in the entine CJK list, the chinese 20,000 I believe!)

Ganbare!



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05-25-2008, 08:59 AM

Learning Japanese and learning Kanji are two different things.

I can talk on a phone and sound like a native Japanese.

But give me a newspaper, and I can't tell you what is happening.
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05-25-2008, 08:49 PM

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I never used a computer when I was studying. The excuses find you.
if you are saying you used a book, then there is another problem...i have no money and my parents wont buy me anything [say im spoiled enough as it is]
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05-25-2008, 09:06 PM

Grr.
I know most of the Kana.
I won't know how to write it though.
But I will know what it is when I see it.
^^;

I'm terrible. x]
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05-25-2008, 09:48 PM

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Learning Japanese and learning Kanji are two different things.

I can talk on a phone and sound like a native Japanese.

But give me a newspaper, and I can't tell you what is happening.
I know what you mean there. Although I'm the opposite of you since I haven't put in any serious studying effort in a while. I know I should, but I keep finding excuses.

As to people not being able to see Japanese characters on their computer; its not a hard problem to solve. Get your Windows CD. Follow the instructions at Using Japanese Text Input on a Microsoft Windows PC . Simple.

Besides, I learned most of my basic material through textbooks as well. I only really use the computer to practice. Personally, I learn faster through books/handwriting because I actually have to make the hand motions and not just read a character.
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05-26-2008, 03:41 AM

I know like 150 something, around there, working on it. Heh... I think Im doing well.
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if you are saying you used a book, then there is another problem...i have no money and my parents wont buy me anything [say im spoiled enough as it is]
Your parents won't buy you a textbook? There's a little place called the library...
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