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Hi. This is my answer to a question from my friend.
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“Offensive People”

This is the second question from TheContract318.

TheContract318 : My second question is a cultural question. From what I hear, many times foreigners can be very obnoxious and/or offensive to the native Japanese. I am personally not an obnoxious person and keep to myself, however I was wondering what things you notice that foreigners do (or fail to do) that may be rude or offensive. I really do not want to offend people and want to do things the Japanese way as much as possible, that is outside of my own living quarters when others are not affected (I will still behave western when I'm at home alone in my pajamas).


Answer : It’s true that some people from foreign countries are making trouble. There are two kinds of major trouble. Noise and trash.

Some easy-going people from other countries sing or play music loudly at night. The Japanese people don’t understand why they do like that. It’s really rude here, but they say it’s their culture. We believe they should obey Japanese culture while they are in Japan. When we grumble about the noise, most of they don’t understand the Japanese language, or don’t try to understand what we say. So, we really hate them.
By the way, you can’t speak using a mobile phone while in a train and a bus. You should keep quiet.

About trash. I think the ways of collection of garbage are depend on the country. You might agree with me that you should observe the local rules when you move in a foreign country. However, there always exist some easy-going people. Since they don’t care about collection day that they are called to be rude. I think the roads of their home country must be full of garbage and they recognize it’s natural.

I’m sure that the best way to be good is learning the language, and always try to understand the local people.

Thank you.


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Hi. This is my answer to a question from my friend.
Could someone correct my English?


“Offensive People”

This is the second question from TheContract318.

TheContract318 : My second question is a cultural question. From what I hear, many times, foreigners can be very obnoxious and/or offensive to the native Japanese. I, personally, am not an obnoxious person and keep myself to myself. However, I was wondering what things you notice that foreigners do (or fail to do) that may be rude or offensive. I really do not want to offend people and want to do things the Japanese way as much as possible, that is, outside of my own living quarters when others are not affected (I will still behave western when I'm at home alone in my pajamas).


Answer : It’s true that some people from foreign countries are causing trouble. There are two kinds of major trouble. Noise and trash.

Some easy-going people from other countries sing or play music loudly at night. The Japanese people don’t understand why they do like that. It’s really rude here, but they say it’s their culture. We believe they should obey Japanese culture while they are in Japan. When we grumble about the noise, most of them don’t understand the Japanese language, or don’t try to understand what we say. So, we really hate (You may wish to use 'dislike' here, if you don't want to sound too harsh) them.
By the way, you can’t speak on a mobile phone while in a train and a bus. You should keep quiet.

About trash. I think the ways of collection of garbage are depend on the country. You might agree with me that you should observe the local rules when you move in a foreign country. However, there always exist some easy-going people. Since they don’t care about collection day, they are said to be rude. I think the roads of their home country must be full of garbage and they recognize it’s natural.

I’m sure that the best way to be good is learning the language, and always try to understand the local people.

Thank you.
The first paragraph where you say 'you notice that foreigners do' is fine, but if you use the past-tense it would be 'what things you have noticed that foreigners do'. Just unsure of what tense your aiming for here.

Unsure about 'There are two kinds of major trouble', but I can't think of any other way to put it.

Tried to correct this the best I can. I'm sure other people may find points I missed. Quite a fasinating read. I see the point and underastand fully the 'anger' local people may feel towards 'lazy' foreigners who can't be bothered to adapt their ways for the country and the culture. Anyway, hope this helps.


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The first paragraph where you say 'you notice that foreigners do' is fine, but if you use the past-tense it would be 'what things you have noticed that foreigners do'. Just unsure of what tense your aiming for here.

Unsure about 'There are two kinds of major trouble', but I can't think of any other way to put it.
Hi, JamboP26! Thank you!
I see. Maybe the sentence should be; “There are two reasons of major trouble” ?

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So, we really hate (You may wish to use 'dislike' here, if you don't want to sound too harsh) them.
I will change the word to “dislike”. Thank you.

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Tried to correct this the best I can. I'm sure other people may find points I missed. Quite a fasinating read. I see the point and underastand fully the 'anger' local people may feel towards 'lazy' foreigners who can't be bothered to adapt their ways for the country and the culture. Anyway, hope this helps.
Thank you for understanding.
I think this kind of issues happens all over the world.
However, Japanese people are not used to foreign people, so we don’t know how to communicate with those people.


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09-30-2010, 11:47 AM

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Hi, JamboP26! Thank you!
I see. Maybe the sentence should be; “There are two reasons of major trouble” ?


I will change the word to “dislike”. Thank you.


Thank you for understanding.
I think this kind of issues happens all over the world.
However, Japanese people are not used to foreign people, so we don’t know how to communicate with those people.
Your original sentence, 'There are two kinds of major trouble', isn't wrong. It just doesn't sound right, to me. Maybe 'There are two causes of major trouble'. That might fit better.

I think it is perhaps more noticable in countries where the culture differs greatly. The people on this forum understand more, the cultures and ways of Japan, so might be more 'up' with the trends and ways of things there. The random 'Joe Bloggs' off the street, might not understand the way the country and culture works, and their lack of preparation, will no get them far in another country. It really is a fascinating subject.


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Your original sentence, 'There are two kinds of major trouble', isn't wrong. It just doesn't sound right, to me. Maybe 'There are two causes of major trouble'. That might fit better.
Thank you!
I will memorize the expression.

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I think it is perhaps more noticable in countries where the culture differs greatly. The people on this forum understand more, the cultures and ways of Japan, so might be more 'up' with the trends and ways of things there. The random 'Joe Bloggs' off the street, might not understand the way the country and culture works, and their lack of preparation, will no get them far in another country. It really is a fascinating subject.
You seem to have similar trouble in your country, right?


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Hi. This is my answer to a question from my friend.
Could someone correct my English?


“Offensive People”

This is the second question from TheContract318.

TheContract318 : My second question is a cultural question. From what I hear, many times, foreigners can be very obnoxious and/or offensive to the native Japanese. I, personally, am not an obnoxious person and keep myself to myself. However, I was wondering what things you notice that foreigners do (or fail to do) that may be rude or offensive. I really do not want to offend people and want to do things the Japanese way as much as possible, that is, outside of my own living quarters when others are not affected (I will still behave western when I'm at home alone in my pajamas).


Answer : It’s true that some people from foreign countries are causing trouble. There are two kinds of major trouble. Noise and trash.

Some easy-going people from other countries sing or play music loudly at night. The Japanese people don’t understand why they do BEHAVE like that. It’ SEEMS really rude here, but they say it’s their culture. We believe they should obey Japanese culture while they are in Japan. When we grumble about the noise, most of them don’t understand the Japanese language, or don’t try to understand what we say. So, we really hate (You may wish to use 'dislike' here, if you don't want to sound too harsh) them.
By the way, you can’t speak on a mobile phone while in a train and a bus. You should keep quiet.

About trash. I think the ways of collection of garbage are dependENT on the country. You might agree with me that you should observe the local rules when you move inTO/ a foreign country. However, there always existS some easy-going people. (MAYBE (THOUGHTLESS or SELFISH PEOPLE Since they don’t care about collection day, they are said to be rude. ( I would say they are selfish rather than RUDE. I think the roads of their home country must be full of garbage and they recognize / THINK ITS NORMAL it’s natural. simply put-- some people are LAZY.

I’m sure that the best way is to (DO YOUR BEST) try to learn the language and try to understand the local people. is learning the language, and always try to understand the local people. Try to fit in with your neighbours

Thank you.

The first paragraph where you say 'you notice that foreigners do' is fine, but if you use the past-tense it would be 'what things you have noticed that foreigners do'. Just unsure of what tense your aiming for here.

Unsure about 'There are two kinds of major trouble', but I can't think of any other way to put it.

Tried to correct this the best I can. I'm sure other people may find points I missed. Quite a fasinating read. I see the point and underastand fully the 'anger' local people may feel towards 'lazy' foreigners who can't be bothered to adapt their ways for the country and the culture. Anyway, hope this helps.


PS YURI-- Not all people are selfish but we also suffer from certain people who play their music at all hours with no consideration for others. There is a noise abatement Act-- but it is hard to put into action. Its NOTHING to do with culture when people act irresponsibly-- THey are totally selfish and don't care about their neighbours--But it is not culture by any means.

wherever people live they need to try to get along with neighbours and not make a nuisance of themselves.Unfortunately-- some people simply do not care.


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I knew I'd miss bit out. lol. Well recovered, dogsbody. hahaha


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HI Jambo-- you did brilliantly.!!!
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Thank you!
I will memorize the expression.


You seem to have similar trouble in your country, right?
We seem to have a lot of Polish and eastern European immigrants coming into the country for work. The differences between the cultures are few, but the was a problem with this Lithuanian gang, who faked charity leaflets, to collect clothes. They'd then sell on the clothes or something and make a bit of money out of it. But it is a minority group. I'd say, because Japan's culture is SO different, it is perhaps easier to spot when people are acting as they would in their homeland.


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@dogsbody70

Thank you for correcting.

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You might agree with me that you should observe the local rules when you move inTO/ a foreign country. However, there always existS some easy-going people.
I don’t understand what you mean with “inTO/
What does the “/” mean?


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