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May I give you my take on the picture?



I see a young couple coming towards me on a wide pavement. The young woman is self propelling her wheelchair and she is accompanied by a good looking young man. A few cars and a van are parked close to the kerb alongside them and I can see a few cycles in their own cycle bays on my right. In the background are some substantial stone buildings. It seems to me that the couple are enjoying each others company. I do think they are having a good time.
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I see a young couple coming towards me on a wide pavement. The young woman is self propelling her wheelchair and she is accompanied by a good looking young man. A few cars and a van are parked close to the kerb alongside them and I can see a few cycles in their own cycle bays on my right. In the background are some substantial stone buildings. It seems to me that the couple are enjoying each others company. I do think they are having a good time. (The bold parts are new expression to me.)

Thank you to sharpen the description.

I don't know why, but after sharing your opinion about the photo, I now can't help thinking but they're happy.

I thought I didn't know they were happy or not, maybe they were talking about breaking-up. But now I think they're happy. Both of them are smiling.

This is some kind of "Rorschach test", isn't it?
A psychological test.

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I see a young couple coming towards me on a wide pavement. The young woman is self propelling her wheelchair and she is accompanied by a good looking young man. A few cars and a van are parked close to the kerb alongside them and I can see a few cycles in their own cycle bays on my right. In the background are some substantial stone buildings. It seems to me that the couple are enjoying each others company. I do think they are having a good time. (The bold parts are new expression to me.)

Thank you to (FOR SHARPENING The description.)sharpen the description.

I don't know why, but after sharing your opinion about the photo, I now can't help thinking but they're happy.

SUBSTANTIAL IN this context means SOLID. SELF PROPELLED meant she was Propelling herself along by pushing the wheels along by herself. DOING IT HERSELF.

People who are learning a language by themselves are SELF TAUGHT. I taught myself to read and write Braille-- therefore I am self taught in Braille.

byI thought I didn't know IF they were happy or not, maybe they were talking about breaking-up. But now I think they're happy. Both of them are smiling.

This is some kind of "Rorschach test", isn't it?
A psychological test.
Mine was just from a different perspective with maybe not such a thorough description as your own rendering.

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07-20-2011, 11:11 PM

People who are learning a language by themselves are SELF TAUGHT. I taught myself to read and write Braille-- therefore I am self taught in Braille.

Braille! That's smart!

My only experience about Braille, some years ago, for just one minute.
There were dots on each button of the elevator, which located the floor number.
So I thought I could know 1,2,3,4,5,6,...equivalent letter (or dots) in Braille.
Then I tried to tough and feel the number. Though, soon after, I gave up. I couldn't even recognize the difference of each dot. I had to sharpen my sensation of my finger to know the difference.

So I know you're doing something really challenging.

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07-21-2011, 08:12 AM

HI again Supperman.

I used to have blind people come stay with me for holidays, and also acted as a guide for them. One friend who went blind after he contracted meningitis aged six, stayed with us all winter, I used to accompany him to Early Music Festivals in York.

When i say I taught myself braille-- I taught myself the system so that I could translate letters into print and also communicate with blind people by using braille. I did not learn to read by touch----------- It took me six months of study to learn the system which was helped by having friends to write to in braille. I had a little hand frame-- you prick the letters on the reverse side, then I invested in a sort of braille writer-- it had six keys-- It is a fascinating and clever system. Watching those who use braille frequently, they whizz along the lines so quickly. I also used to accompany visually impaired people on special literature study weeks. In the evenings they used to have dances and really let themselves go. And some of them were brilliant pianists. They really know how to enjoy themselves. David Blunkett who ran the Home Office for a few years is totally blind. He attended a specialist school as a child. Nowadays they try to integrate the visually impaired into normal schools, but whether they students get sufficient support? I do not know.

Yes the Braille numbers are the first letters of the alphabet-- up to J.


Moon is also a way of writing for those who find reading Braille by touch too difficult.

Often people who lose their sight in later life, can be taught to learn Moon although the books are very heavy.

My friend who stayed over winter-- had heavy braille books delivered on a regular basis. One day he damaged his reading finger-- and could not read with any of his other fingers------so the brain must just send messages via the one finger.

He taught me to play chess although anyone can beat me at chess. Nowadays with talking books and cassettes plus modern methods, talking books are easily available for those who do not read braille or Moon.
This makes me wonder about the system in Japanese language. what reading system is there for Japanese people who are visually impaired?




Moon type - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Braille Alphabet and Braille Code

Japanese braille - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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He taught me to play chess although anyone can beat me at chess. Nowadays with talking books and cassettes plus modern methods, talking books are easily available for those who do not read braille or Moon.
This makes me wonder about the system in Japanese language. what reading system is there for Japanese people who are visually impaired?

Moon type - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Braille Alphabet and Braille Code

Japanese braille - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I know a man, who is visually impaired, has a wrist watch that can tell the time if he touch its button.

The braille I saw in the elevator is exactly the same as in "Braille Alphabet and Braille Code".

Oh, I remember one thing which annoys the visually impaired people.

They used to listen to TV programs using radio. Because the TV broadcasting and radio broadcasting use the same electrical waves.
But in Japan, all TV broadcasting will have switched to the terrestrial digital broadcasting service completely on July 24th, which is the day after tomorrow!
It can provide much clearer vision.
Yet, I too had to endure the great expense to buy a new TV-set.
Unless I get a new TV-set, I will be unable to watch TV after the day after tomorrow.

BTW, the terrestrial digital broadcasting service uses completely different waves from the former waves, though I'm not sure about electricity things.
The visually handicapped people will no longer be able to listen to TV program on radio, after the day after tomorrow!
They have to buy a new expensive TV-set, though they don't need the clearer vision.
What an ironical thing it is!

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07-21-2011, 10:58 AM

UM Supperman, you are demonstrating how well you read and understand English. You should be really proud of yourself. I wonder how long you have been studying English?


About the radio-- TV. Over here there are digital boxes one can buy to use with older TV's, so we do not have to actually buy modern TV's. I am uncertain about what is happening in JAPAN. To be honest- Our radio programmes are often superior to TV programmes-- especially the BBC. I doubt if many Japanese would really miss the TV Programmes If the RADIO programmes are as good as many of ours.

I should imagine there is an organisation for the blind in Japan that would find a way to help people.

Are your radio programmes good?
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I know a man, who is visually impaired, has a wrist watch that can tell the time if he touch its button. I believe there are a lot of technical advances to help the visually impaired compared to the past.

There were very expensive PRINT Readers-- they did cost thousands of pounds. Now I think they do not cost so much.The braille I saw in the elevator is exactly the same as in "Braille Alphabet and Braille Code". ( I noticed that if I wished to learn japanese braille-- which seemed basically Kana-- I would simply learn the same signs/ dots but for a different sign. I am not sure if Kanji can be used though?)

Oh, I remember one thing which annoys the visually impaired people.

They used to listen to TV programs using radio. Because the TV broadcasting and radio broadcasting use the same electrical waves.
But in Japan, all TV broadcasting will have switched to the terrestrial digital broadcasting service completely on July 24th, which is the day after tomorrow!
It can provide much clearer vision.
Yet, I too had to endure the great expense to buy a new TV-set.
Unless I get a new TV-set, I will be unable to watch TV after the day after tomorrow.

BTW, the terrestrial digital broadcasting service uses completely different waves from the former waves, though I'm not sure about electricity things.
The visually handicapped people will no longer be able to listen to TV program on radio, after the day after tomorrow!
They have to buy a new expensive TV-set, though they don't need the clearer vision.
What an ironical thing it is!
I seem to have lost my reply to this?
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07-21-2011, 02:52 PM

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UM Supperman, you are demonstrating how well you read and understand English. You should be really proud of yourself. I wonder how long you have been studying English?


About the radio-- TV. Over here there are digital boxes one can buy to use with older TV's, so we do not have to actually buy modern TV's. I am uncertain about what is happening in JAPAN. To be honest- Our radio programmes are often superior to TV programmes-- especially the BBC. I doubt if many Japanese would really miss the TV Programmes If the RADIO programmes are as good as many of ours.

I should imagine there is an organisation for the blind in Japan that would find a way to help people.

Are your radio programmes good?
I thought RADIO programs were better to listen to than TV programs, because RADIO programs were intended to make for listeners, while TV's were for watchers.
Yet, to the contrary, I heard from plural visually handicapped people that TV programs were better than radio programs, when they listen to them.

I though of the reason, and my conclusion was;
TV programs have higher performance than RADIO programs, because TV programs use much money to produce.
A radio jockey can't talk all through one program, so their speech is interrupted by musics.
So if one want to listens to someone's voice instead of music, one may prefer to listen to TV program.
Though I don't know it is correct or not.
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ah well I expect it depends on personal taste.

I don't know how good your TV programmes are. I would hate to be without my radio. I find it more personal.

Let's hope there will be some facility to help those people.
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