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02-21-2008, 10:40 AM

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Hence survival of the fittest…how big is your castle? Can you afford the finer things in life?
I am not a normal person, so that really is not a statement for me. For me my life, and what I can have is dependant on the power of my will, and that alone. At least, so it is seeming so right now. I work harder than most in training Muay Thai, Kung Fu, and when I was in the Infantry I worked hard, but I dont work any more, just train, but hard. Yet I would do this even if I was loaded with money right now, it is my Way in life. But I have found that strength brings possibility; a truly strong person who REALLY has no restraints will find they can have everything they want, if they have but the will and courage to take it; Genghis Kahn was born in a tent with no father, and he took the world!

Anyway, enough on me, what you are saying is not impossible. But it is unlikely. Perhaps Bush was on the red carpet coz he is such an idiot and did not know he was not suposed to be on it. And the old Mum is probably so drunk that she dont know either.

Money such as these people have ensures smooth election campaigns and stuff, but I dunno, I mean, fuck. Do you got anything else? Any real links or connections or something that helps prove it that was actually said or done?

And, my Raptor research was well done, but I fucked one thing up and Noodle got the best of me for it. You have to work hard if you want to become. I thought I had a clear line, and although I believe I do, I used it wrong. You will be the same, if you dont think hard about what you are saying, and act or open your mouth before you are 100% sure, you will never achieve your goal, and in some cases, you will risk everything.


Even if it seems certain that you will lose, retaliate. Neither wisdom nor technique has a place in this. A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.

May the Demon find you...

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02-21-2008, 10:42 AM

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Alright Karmazfriend you may as well just drop it....you may not win this fight cuz he will just find another way to prove you wrong and make you look like a dumb ass.........take it from a that has been here longer and that has more time about talking to him........but then agian you may win but their is a small chance.......you may win today but he will come back tomarrow with something else to say about it.....
Are you talking about me? I actually quite like this guy, unlike SOME people, he seems to be trying to prove something with evidence, instead of ... fuck, I dont even know what you guys are useing, anything?


Even if it seems certain that you will lose, retaliate. Neither wisdom nor technique has a place in this. A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.

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02-21-2008, 11:03 AM

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Charles Galton Darwin (the grandson of Charles Darwin) said, "every civilization has really been a form of slavery for the people," and he was all for it. That was a NATURAL ORDER according to him; and of course, those who are trained in power and control of the people are trained in this technique since birth.
Wow, dude. You are right into this conspiracy stuff.

Anyway, I also think that civilization is a form of slavery, and I understand why. People are like most animals. Like all beasts with horns, or silverback gorilla, even birds, they all compete against themselves in their most impressvie ways to try and take control. I was thinking just today how some men think that other men who like to resolve issues by fighting are all block headed and got problems, but then the same guys try and go around like a fuckin peacock covered in perfume that smells like a girl tryin to win shit over, or other men who think they can get some power and control from bein nerdy and smart. Personally I would compare myself to being more like a gorilla, in that I wont take no for an answer and will duke it out til the death if I gotta just to make my stand. But so what? Leaders of all countries enslave their own people, even if they truly love them with all their heart, they will put them up in a war and often to the death. That is just the way men are. Even peaceful animals like deer and buffalo compete with their horns and antlers against each other and inflict sometimes fatal wounds for control of their flock. It is natures way of ensureing that things are governed in the strongest and most authorative manner possible. That to have a coward who has not the stomach to have one of his beloved people die in battle to protect his country, what kind of walk over species would we be? What men would we be with no savagery and brutality?

I dont know if Darwin said that or not, but if he did, not only was he correct, but he was rightful to support it.

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That's the hypocrisy of this system and that's how they view the public. They've broken our legs and they hate us because we can't get up.
Are you fuckin serious? I am my own man, doin my own thing. But I dont care who, anyone, Bush want to insult me or think I am down so try and kick me, he would have me come at him and I WOULD have vengance. If I cant reach him as he is a coward by fist, I know I can score a head shot with an assault rifle at 300m no sweat.

Speak for yourself, no one is puttin you down accept for yourself in the fact you are not refuseing to take shit.


Even if it seems certain that you will lose, retaliate. Neither wisdom nor technique has a place in this. A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.

May the Demon find you...
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free masons and skulls and bones myth - 02-21-2008, 04:03 PM

Your masonic conspiracy theory falls apart when you consider the historical record. First of all the defining event of the 20th century was WW2 which still influences the world here in the 21st century from economics to geography. The longest serving president in the history of the United States was Franklen D Roosevelt 1933-1944 served the United States through its two greatest crisis of its history the depression of the 30's and WW2. Besides economic programs which still influence todays economic systems from NYSE to Tokoyo Exchange. FDR went to Harvard and was not a Skull and Bones or free mason. ( refer 'New Deal' ) Pls refer to pre war SEC proceedings against G Bush great grandfather a real 'Skull and Bones' member who was partner in a US Bank , long story short provided cash to Nazi Germany prior to WW2 ( Nazi Germany also was very anti free mason but war makes strange bedfellows? ) no more than the rotary club or the 'knights of columbus' do these groups influence real history.
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02-21-2008, 04:50 PM

i haven't been here for a while, and reading 15 pages is impossible but i read the long ones (usually have more inforamtion). Big bang- don't believe in, if you look at our solar system and where earth is positioned. You couldn't play pool like that on beginner's luck. Chemical evolution, where things are cooked into higher elements is true. The sun does it. Gives atoms more protons (which gives them more electrons) all the way up to iron, same for the earth, all the way up to iridium. Micro evolution is possible. Macro is impossible for the fact that if you took a polar bear out of its natural environment and had its offsprings' offsprings' offspring live in michigan, would they still be polar bears? PLUS microevolution happens usually within the first 2 generations as offspring (basically your grandma can give you traits like an ugly pinky toe). O and what would be the reason for a raptor to turn into a bird? Like to survive. Even birds need trees to pirch on. So there really wouldn't be any reason for them to change into a bird, even in an ice age (your better off growing fur, or scales, or becoming a sea mammal). In fact birds of prey, don't even get as much game as land animals do, like hienas, or lions and with about 1/4 the energy of every prey eaten ACTUALLY converting into useable energy to you, your better off turning into a vegetarian. So could someone tell me the reason why a raptor, would turn into a bird.

Secondly, no one is seperate from the whole. For man is not asexual which further explains the saying "Women...can't live with 'em. Can't live without' em." Media is a puppet...a group of people with money AND military strength make what is and what isn't. Truth be told, you really can't even believe yourself, which has been proven in the case of aphrodisiacs (I'm studying that right now). Other than mind altering drugs, like weed, and heroine which lower your inhabition, there are no drugs that give you a safe, nartural, "spring in your step", that they can find. Most people are told its a aphrodisiac and therefore they think it and do it. They call it a "placebo" effect, or on the negative side of things "nacebo" effect. So in reality, your reality, might not really be the shared reality of the whole. So you are one in a whole, but the whole looks at the one with more glory NOW, why? The puppet is pulling more strings don't you think. The real question is whose the puppeteer. You better be able to shoot to figure that one out but who cares. Like hitler, did you know that hitler was HORRIBLE at plans, GREAT at talking. JUST TALKING!!! Hitler was a puppet, there was another person though, probably as great an orator as he, but you want to have a few scape goats, right? So think bigger, think deeper...then think smaller and more simple.


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the warburgs and federal reserve - 02-21-2008, 06:25 PM

pls refrain from Chernow 1993 pub. New York Random House 'Warburgs' Chernow fawns too much on the Warburgs yes the Federal Reserve Bank was designed by Paul Warburg- Intimately acquainted with European central banks, especially the Reichsbank, Paul didn't claim to originate new banking principles so much as import European practices. As with Max [Paul's older brother] in Hamburg, Paul meshed spectacularly with his historical moment. Once again, a Warburg succeeded because of his contradictory status. As a Jew in a gentile world, a German immigrant confronting a new country, Paul was able to spot flaws in American finance to which native bankers had been blinded by familiarity.circa 1914' This is hardly earthshattering since this same bank set the stage for the stock market crash of 1929' and the inability of the bank under the Paul Warburg designed Federal Reserve was unable to respond. Remember the main reason the 'Federal Reserve' was established a 'centralized bank' was Paul Warburg quote" The central bank he envisioned for the United States would insure against future "panics" and do away with much of the risk of banking. To this end, he played a key but secretive role in this project:" A little more than a decade later the United States ( and world )would enter into economic depression due to a 'centralized bank' ( Federal Reserve ) inability to insure against future panics- 1929 crash' this is epic fail in anyones book?
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02-21-2008, 06:58 PM

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Interesting name too, Warburg. A burg is like a mountain, eh? A mountain of war, and they do love mountains in their names because it's all to do with pyramids and stuff. History has got a lot to teach you when you really look into it and how the stock market and why they called it Wall Street – what kind of wailing wall is Wall Street? Why is it a wall in the first place and why they did put it there?
Yes my friend. History does have much to teach us!

Lesson 1:
In the mid-1500's, the Cassel family of Bologna moved from northern Italy to the Saxon town of Warburg. Less than a hundred years latter they had moved on to the Hamburg region, but had taken the name of the little town as their own.

The town had its roots in the Saxon Wars with Charlemagne. The name Warburg is derived from "Warburger Burgberg", the Castle Mountain. Our modern word "WAR" is derived from the Saxon word for fortress. Warburg quite literally means, fortress on the hill.

Lesson 2:
In the 1600's on the isle of Manhattan, there was a path that joined the banks of the East River with those of the Hudson River on the west. The path had became a bustling commercial thoroughfare, but was subjected to frequent raids from Native Americans and pirates. So the Dutch settlers built a wall along the path to protect their settlement. Naturally the path along the wall became know as the Wall Street.

In 1792 a group of 24 leading New York merchants formed a securities trading group. This became known as the Buttonwood Agreement, under a buttonwood tree had been their traditional meeting place. The group had early did well at first trading on revolutionary war bonds, however 1810 the New York Merchant Group was failing. In 1817 the group reformed, modeling themselves after the very successful Philadelphia Stock Exchange. They rented a room at 40 Wall street.



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02-21-2008, 08:45 PM

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