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04-17-2008, 12:51 PM

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To the man who murdered the boy after sexualy assulting him could have seen it as something right too, yet to others around him it could be considered wrong. Like that murderer, I forgot his name was it homer?. He thought he was doing something right by murdering people and that nothing was wrong with that but to the public it was wrong because they had been told its wrong.
Maybe there is no good or evil there are only people nothing more than that.
Then there is the case where a MArines home was broken into while he was still home and so he grabbed his gun and shot the robber while the robber was trying to get away. Who is bad in this situation? the robber or the marine?.
We can say anything. Words are our tools of understanding; Our way of translating the world around us into a more comprehensible knowledge. We use it to describe what we believe as fact.

What we cannot do, however, is change fact.

Your scenario for example: We could call the Marine the bad-guy or the Robber the bad-guy. Whichever we choose wouldn't determine the fact -- the fact always existed -- instead, we'd simply be attempting to gain a better understanding of the situation.

They may both be guilty of wrong-doings. However. It would be unlikely that both of them were equally justified in their actions.

*Justification, as I'm sure you know, can ride on a lot of things such as Natural Reaction, Motivation, Intention, etc.

... Or... They may both be "innocent"... In the sense that neither had control of the situation to begin with. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

If you can't blame the Marine for shooting the stranger that broke into his house and stole his possessions, and you can't blame the Robber for being desperate for something to live off of (assuming he is not acting out of malice and/or greed)... Then blame may belong to a different source.

Not all criminals are insane... Just as Not all criminals believe they are doing what's right when they commit a crime.
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04-17-2008, 09:15 PM

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We can say anything. Words are our tools of understanding; Our way of translating the world around us into a more comprehensible knowledge. We use it to describe what we believe as fact.

What we cannot do, however, is change fact.

Your scenario for example: We could call the Marine the bad-guy or the Robber the bad-guy. Whichever we choose wouldn't determine the fact -- the fact always existed -- instead, we'd simply be attempting to gain a better understanding of the situation.

They may both be guilty of wrong-doings. However. It would be unlikely that both of them were equally justified in their actions.

*Justification, as I'm sure you know, can ride on a lot of things such as Natural Reaction, Motivation, Intention, etc.

... Or... They may both be "innocent"... In the sense that neither had control of the situation to begin with. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

If you can't blame the Marine for shooting the stranger that broke into his house and stole his possessions, and you can't blame the Robber for being desperate for something to live off of (assuming he is not acting out of malice and/or greed)... Then blame may belong to a different source.

Not all criminals are insane... Just as Not all criminals believe they are doing what's right when they commit a crime.
Excellent post. You make some very good points that I hadn't thought about.


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I agree.

However, in order for us to even attempt to determine what's Evil and what's not, we'd have to agree that Evil even existed. Which, in this case, Evil, according to Tenchu, does not exist.

I believe - as many others here do - that Evil does exist... Dependance upon interpretation or not.
You think mankind can arrive in reality and take over, telling the world what is and is not virtue. These things existed long before we got here, long after we gone. Your opinion is your own. It is baseless. I dont know why people have so much time seeing this.



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04-18-2008, 02:33 AM

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You think mankind can arrive in reality and take over, telling the world what is and is not virtue. These things existed long before we got here, long after we gone. Your opinion is your own. It is baseless. I dont know why people have so much time seeing this.
My opinion is just as good as yours. Don't throw me that garbage.
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05-16-2008, 06:19 PM

what ever in in the mood for some times i would b evil other times id be good it really depends if ur on my good side or not


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