any soldiers out there? - Page 14

JoshAussie · (#131 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by Paul11

People join because they love their country ferociously. Soldiers beleive they are making a differnce in the world and to their country. Soldiers don't beleive in globalism, sometimes, but in serving the country that gave them everything. They see a difference between the UNited States, and a back-water country where people are murdering each other with hatchets over ethnicity, where the people have no chance to rise from the squalor they were born into, where education is not available to everyone, where dictators have rape rooms and their sons kill citizens for fun.

In America we have everything, the ability to educate and raise oneself up. The very fruitfull lives of overabundance you enjoy, but so ignorantly condemn is due to soldiers. Without soldiers and police, you would not be in school, or buying a new car. You would be herded into a militia and taught to murder other youngsters with a machete in service to a drug lord.

respect to those who gave everything so we may have everything.

Paul your one of if not my favourite poster i am 100% in agreement once again

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one of my mates tippo just joined the Aus army as a rifleman well actually he just did some sort of basic training to see if the army was for him now his in training to become a rifleman so his not fully trained or anything

but he will do wheaps good in the army his got the right sort of personality

sometimes he gets called Terry Tough Cu#$

(terry isnt his real name, just a saying usually for posers like "yeh man id totally do that") you know the ones.. but tippo is usually serious

Alkindus · (#132 (**permalink**))

well what can be said about this ´mistake´ because of ´faulty intelligence´ what hasn´t been said before? I still don´t understand why people seem to ignore that the US government lied and lied and lied and lied before and during the ´war´ even right now.....this has been proven a thousand times already,you have some serious issues if u still refuse to acknowledge this. people are forgetting that the USand Uk Invaded Iraq, 99% of the people labeled terrorists were just civilians fighting against the invasion. screw all this ar on terror bullcrap

picture u living in Iraq, the US UK come in bomb the shit outta the country....all of a sudden many people around u DIE, THERE IS NO GOVERMENT, NO POLICE etc NO ORDER an entire society just turned into a chaotic one and all people have is their faith (this is where the extremism comes from, when an outside force invades people tend to become more extreme with their culture etc)

since the US/UK invaded:
óver 4 million Iraqi´s fled their homes, between the 150.000 and 1000.000 deaths, unknown nr of wounded, ancient babylonian/Sumerian arts/artifacts etc are ´lost´ or destroyed......not even talking about infrastructure loss etc etc etc.

lets not even talk about the torture jails....remember abu graihb? that ´lady´ that tortured those people on video etc? she didn´t even get real jail time! remember blackwater etc?

say what u want about Osama (who ever the hell he is) he was right when he said: is your blood, blood? and is our blood water?

how can someone who drops a bomb on a ´residential area´ killing 1 ´terrorist´ while killing 60 people surrounding that terrorist not feel like a war criminal?

and lets keep it real here, since 9-11 people have anti-islamic feelings, they don´t care about the ´a-rabs´ or sandniggers, there are many people includng soldiers that feel they are ´fighting against islam´ there has been a lot of discrimination etc.

before u join the military, c what the war is about, or atleast check out your countries past wars etc, if u particpated in this war, even if u washed clothes in iraq, u are a war criminal.

people with their Kami at the right place know that what the US and UK etc have done in Iraq etc has nothing to do with justice, has nothig to do with honour, it has nothing to do with respect for human life.

The USA and UK are responsible for probably the most terrible crime against humanity/human rights this century.

right now look at what is happening............the 4 Oil companies that Saddam kicked out (Saddam wanted to switch to the euro, make deals with China,russia etc) now have exclusive deal with the new Iraqi goverment regarding the oil.....a lot of extremely shady bussiness is going on and happened.

And we aren´t even talking about what happened in Afganistan.

Tenchu · (#133 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by Paul11

Maybe their not brainwashed. Maybe their just educated out of the tired, unaware type of thinking they used to share with you.

"It's the same reason why people get into gangs or mafias."

You can't be serious! Theres no comparison. You really have no idea why people join either, do you?

You are right. I wasn't brainwashed into wanting to kill people, I joined because I already wanted to do it as a result of the plain and mediocre society that Eve lives in. I want something different. I wanted adventure and challenge, and to compete against other men on a serious level. Most the Infantry guys are like this. They were all how they are before they joined. I was.

The real problem is the lack of reality such a peaceful world imposes on us gets us carried away in seemingly immature and useless concepts that in a sense this is what is really killing people. Peace is not always bad, but it goes without saying, war is the wake up call to reality many people need if they ever want to see truth.

Tenchu · (#134 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by EveV

Animals go with instinct.
They do what they do and that is that.
They have no capability of deep thought.
If they did humans wouldn't destroy them so easily.

That is stupid, also.

We are animals, and most of what we do is also instinct, even if on a complicated level. This is why most people have such similar desires and lives, it is instinct. Little is chosen.

Many animals also have qualities that are virtue that a lot of people lack. Your kind of thinking is one of the worst for this world. The concept of inferiority breeds the majority of crimes that you hate so bad, perhaps you should consider that.

It remains, no one has comforted me in a time of need as much as my pet cat did. She knew I was hurting and would not leave my side. No one has put up with my bad habits and crimes as much as the loyalty of my pet dog. A lot of animals are like this. Complicated thought does not determine the quality of your heart.

EveV · (#135 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by Tenchu

That is stupid, also.

We are animals, and most of what we do is also instinct, even if on a complicated level. This is why most people have such similar desires and lives, it is instinct. Little is chosen.

Many animals also have qualities that are virtue that a lot of people lack. Your kind of thinking is one of the worst for this world. The concept of inferiority breeds the majority of crimes that you hate so bad, perhaps you should consider that.

It remains, no one has comforted me in a time of need as much as my pet cat did. She knew I was hurting and would not leave my side. No one has put up with my bad habits and crimes as much as the loyalty of my pet dog. A lot of animals are like this. Complicated thought does not determine the quality of your heart.

You're correct.
I never did think about it like that.

The thing is when someone I love dies I get sadder and go through more then if my dog died.
In that way humans are inferior in my mind, but it's only natural to love your own species more.
Now theres exceptions like my cat Lucifer who's been with me since the day he arrived on this earth. We understand each other and communicate all the time, just not in the same way I communicate with humans. However I'll be just as devastated when he dies as I was when my close friend did.

I take back my original statement.

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Originally Posted by Tenchu

You are right. I wasn't brainwashed into wanting to kill people, I joined because I already wanted to do it as a result of the plain and mediocre society that Eve lives in. I want something different. I wanted adventure and challenge, and to compete against other men on a serious level. Most the Infantry guys are like this. They were all how they are before they joined. I was.

Why didn't you just join the Peace Corp?
If you wanted adventure and challenge
That's what I want to do.

And almost every society is mediocre when you look at it for to long.

Jaydelart · (#136 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by Tenchu

Peace is not always bad, but it goes without saying, war is the wake up call to reality many people need if they ever want to see truth.

Yes, I agree.
The truth can be ugly.

Hyakushi · (#137 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by Tenchu

That is stupid, also.

We are animals, and most of what we do is also instinct, even if on a complicated level. This is why most people have such similar desires and lives, it is instinct. Little is chosen.

Many animals also have qualities that are virtue that a lot of people lack. Your kind of thinking is one of the worst for this world. The concept of inferiority breeds the majority of crimes that you hate so bad, perhaps you should consider that.

It remains, no one has comforted me in a time of need as much as my pet cat did. She knew I was hurting and would not leave my side. No one has put up with my bad habits and crimes as much as the loyalty of my pet dog. A lot of animals are like this. Complicated thought does not determine the quality of your heart.

Exactly what my point was but noone really listens to me no matter how many times I repeat. Well said Tenchu you get my thumbs up on this one.