Incest and Gay Love.

[ivi0nk3y]

Originally Posted by MissMisa

I was summing up what I thought about the discussion as a whole. There would be absolutely no point in debating further than that because I'd just be repeating what MMM has already said. So a small summary paragraph is more useful than a large one nitpicking every single one of your points and repeating exactly what everyone else has said.

Alrighty. I guess it's just useless to explain further but i'll try a last time.
At the end of the day, if you had understood everything, you would've come to a conclusion like MMM did. However you did not and indeed you did repeat the same points that MMM said and which I had answered. If you had understood my points you would've come up with a similar conclusion to MMM and that is that he finds it fine and I don't, to be a homosexual based on morality.
There was no resolution to the discussion and your conclusion didn't reflect that. Instead your conclusion was based on the discussion a few pages old and it kind of over shadows everything that i've argued and puts a spin on the argument which is totally inappropriate.

It's also rather annoying to see people spewing the same Ricki Lake crap over and over. That isn't directed at you btw.
Anyway i'm off to try and perfect my telepathic abilities so someday it may be easier to get my points across.

[Suki]

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y

Haha, was waiting for someone to pick up on that. Just had to be you
Btw, you conveniently left out the type of monkey that does have gay relations. The Chimpanzee, which I mentioned after what you quoted

Yaaaa I'm just witty like that

As for chimpanzees having sexual intercourse with members of their same gender, it just proves that sex isn't just about making babies; even animals, that are prejudice-free, can have sexual preferences towards the same sex, so there's nothing wrong with two people of the same sex wanting to have a fun time playing with each other's body

Originally Posted by Slykaz1

Oh I noticed.....But I already knew that Suki would be itching to say it...

Darn....should've voted her the funniest...

And you didn't? Ewww darn you! I don't wanna be voted the perviest >.<! Funny suits me better!!

[TalnSG]

Originally Posted by Suki

As for chimpanzees having sexual intercourse with members of their same gender, it just proves that sex isn't just about making babies; even animals, that are prejudice-free, can have sexual preferences towards the same sex, so there's nothing wrong with two people of the same sex wanting to have a fun time playing with each other's body

So true. I once had two cats that proved this as well. Troy and Harold were russian blues and litter mates. When they became adults Troy seemed to take a fancy to Harold, as well as become a bit of an exhibitionist. For some reason any time a guest came to the house for the first time and sat down on the living room couch, the two of them would head for the coffee table, clear it of everything, and Troy would proceed to hump Harold. Once we got over the embarrassment, it became a great joke. Harold would just lay there as if he was sleeping through it. They kinda fit in with the rest of the perverted household and I learned not to set anything breakable on the coffee table when expecting visitors.

[ivi0nk3y]

Originally Posted by Suki

Yaaaa I'm just witty like that

Lol Bravo

Originally Posted by Suki

As for chimpanzees having sexual intercourse with members of their same gender, it just proves that sex isn't just about making babies; even animals, that are prejudice-free, can have sexual preferences towards the same sex, so there's nothing wrong with two people of the same sex wanting to have a fun time playing with each other's body

And again i'll say that WE aren't Chimpanzees. Just because two chimps can do what they want should be a warning to you NOT to do it because it will just associate you with them even more.
Humans have morals, or the ability to understand them. Chimps do not and neither do they have a larger responsibility toward their "society" or "species" to not do what they do.

[Acidreptile]

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y

Lol Bravo



And again i'll say that WE aren't Chimpanzees. Just because two chimps can do what they want should be a warning to you NOT to do it because it will just associate you with them even more.
Humans have morals, or the ability to understand them. Chimps do not and neither do they have a larger responsibility toward their "society" or "species" to not do what they do.

Yeah.We don't need to be all whores like certain people.

[TalnSG]

Originally Posted by Acidreptile

Yeah.We don't need to be all whores like certain people.

You might want to watch you comments. I don't think anyone here takes kindly to being call a whore, even by insinuation. Naming calling is trait of the ignorant an immature.

These were examples of biologically based homosexuality, nor societal mores.

[kittykyo]

love what/whoever you want i dont get why peopel freak out about it

[Suki]

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y

And again i'll say that WE aren't Chimpanzees. Just because two chimps can do what they want should be a warning to you NOT to do it because it will just associate you with them even more.
Humans have morals, or the ability to understand them. Chimps do not and neither do they have a larger responsibility toward their "society" or "species" to not do what they do.

Morals are relative as they vary from person to person, and mine say that it's ok to express your sexuality in any way that you deem fit. You say that it's not right for two men/women to have sex because of your moral values, but you have to understand that they don't apply to everyone because your beliefs differ from other people's, and you don't hold the supreme truth Ivion, so you can't just disrespect gays for acting in accordance with their likings.

@Taln: lol Kitties nowadays...

[noodle]

Oh wow... you guys are using the "animals do it, so it must be natural" argument. hahahahahaha... That just proves you've hit rock bottom... I guess that since animals kill each other, then it's fine for humans to kill each other. In a decade or so, i'm sure murderers will use that excuse if it's accepted for Homosexuality

[Gackt21]

Originally Posted by BakaCrisis

IMHO, Gay guys shouldnt exist... It's just decreasing our population... and you aren't born gay, because obviously your parents were straight to have you. So its a nurture thing not by nature. Gay girls on the other hand can exist because they can still reproduce... I dunno, Gay folk are weird.

What my husband would have to say on the subject is that these men are full of sin and have rebelled so deeply they have lost there way to God. My husband is not trying to sound like a homophobic but this is what he believes is wrong. He believes that if we do nothing about it then we are sinner in equal for God commanded us to help out brother and sisters.

Originally Posted by noodle

Oh wow... you guys are using the "animals do it, so it must be natural" argument. hahahahahaha... That just proves you've hit rock bottom... I guess that since animals kill each other, then it's fine for humans to kill each other. In a decade or so, i'm sure murderers will use that excuse if it's accepted for Homosexuality

In truth I don't care what others do with themselves but if it is going this far what is someone to believe in if it is not what God wants. I have not read everyones response but I thought I would comment on this one because of the problem with gays. For the longest time I have been bi-sexual it hurt me more than it helped. It was like I was lost in the world and in so much pain sexually that I looked for someone and did not care who it was to make me feel full. Of course, this all was happening in college but when I left college and found my way to my husband I knew in my heart that I was straight and nothing a Psychologist told me was true that I was gay. It was all a bunch of lies that had been told to me by so many people that I don't know if they knew me very well. The truth is in Gods word and I have to learn to live by it. That means changing alot of things. If anyone needs any kind of coaching from me, I am willing to hear your problems and give you advice. Excuse my religous words but I believe that their are several problems that cause this; family, society(media), Psychologist, and the unsureness of youth.

I want to know if you guys can see any reason why this wrong?
Ee, we need our men to so that we can breed children but these men feel that they are not loved by family so why should they love a woman. We are not born gay but being gay to a Christian is a sin.