Having children? (not me!)

[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by MissMisa

Still, while this is all well and good, I still don't think there is any way the authorities can measure whether one is strict and disciplined while the other is forgiving and encouraging. If they were observing these roles could easily be acted out.

And as I said, these things aren`t limited to gender to begin with.... So how do you know if both roles will be taken in a heterosexual parent situation? You can`t. But yet no one talks about making sure that a male-female couple is going to stay together let alone fill traditional parental roles before allowing them to have children. I had plenty of friends when I was younger whose parents were *both* soft and forgiving... And as many whose parents were both strict. They didn`t exactly end up growing up and succeeding in life... But they had both parents, of different genders.

Having loving parents is better than having no parent. Having dual parents is better than having a single parent.
In a loving family situation, one parent naturally falls into one position. If you love your child, in general, while you may be angry you also care enough to comfort them.

In order for your comment to actually carry weight, we`d have to live in a world where being a parent was entirely limited to the best possible arrangements for childhood development. This is not, and will never be the case. Even with traditional heterosexual parents adopting a child, they do not check the roles in the household. What`s to stop them from both spoiling the child? Or both being very strict and cold with their discipline?
Nothing.

So tell me, why should a same sex couple be held to different, higher standards?

[MissMisa]

Originally Posted by Nyororin

And as I said, these things aren`t limited to gender to begin with.... So how do you know if both roles will be taken in a heterosexual parent situation? You can`t. But yet no one talks about making sure that a male-female couple is going to stay together let alone fill traditional parental roles before allowing them to have children. I had plenty of friends when I was younger whose parents were *both* soft and forgiving... And as many whose parents were both strict. They didn`t exactly end up growing up and succeeding in life... But they had both parents, of different genders.

Having loving parents is better than having no parent. Having dual parents is better than having a single parent.
In a loving family situation, one parent naturally falls into one position. If you love your child, in general, while you may be angry you also care enough to comfort them.

In order for your comment to actually carry weight, we`d have to live in a world where being a parent was entirely limited to the best possible arrangements for childhood development. This is not, and will never be the case. Even with traditional heterosexual parents adopting a child, they do not check the roles in the household. What`s to stop them from both spoiling the child? Or both being very strict and cold with their discipline?
Nothing.

So tell me, why should a same sex couple be held to different, higher standards?

That's a very good point. Also, I don't really know anyone who has one parent who is strict, and one who is forgiving, peope just aren't one characteristic like that. In terms of my parents, both my parents are a mixture of both qualities.

However, in terms of the authorities, adopting a child is an extremely strict business. They are looking for the best arrangement for childhood development, and they have the ability to choose this. The world isn't like that, but the authorities are aiming to give the child the best possible start in life. The debate that surrounds lesbian and gay couples adopting is enough to put them off. If they give a child to a gay or lesbian couple and it all goes wrong, they will be blamed for giving it to a gay or lesbian couple. If the child grows up in a bad way when being with a hetrosexual couple, it will simply be blamed on the individuals. Maybe they are covering their backs. This is definatly not right.

[Acidreptile]

I guess that it must be much better for any child to have parents than don't have any parents.It does not really matters if they are gays or heterosexuals.They are only people like anyone else.

[Kaminogirl22]

It's like having two brothers and sisters you still have to call them both your mom or dad if you have two of them so I think the kid isn't that confused unless you get someone telling them that you should only call one of your parents dad while you is already used to calling them both dad and vice vera for the mommy version.

[iloverenatenten]

i dont care if the parents are "gay" or "straight" just as long as addoped kid have a good home to grow up in

[Hisuwashi]

I wouldn't want two parents of the same gender. I love my parents, and even though I'm 18, I don't even call my parents "Mom" or "Dad."

All my life, they've been "Mommy" and "Daddy." We're extremely close, and though I am reading some posts here saying that kids adopted by homosexuals aren't bullied, I know in a lot of cases this simply isn't true, I am sure these children would receive at least some form of harassment throughout their lives.

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Hisuwashi

I wouldn't want two parents of the same gender. I love my parents, and even though I'm 18, I don't even call my parents "Mom" or "Dad."

All my life, they've been "Mommy" and "Daddy." We're extremely close, and though I am reading some posts here saying that kids adopted by homosexuals aren't bullied, I know in a lot of cases this simply isn't true, I am sure these children would receive at least some form of harassment throughout their lives.

All children receive some sort of harrassment or hazing. It's no reason to disallow gays from adopting children.

[Ichirin]

Why should they have children? I think that this is a link to something that i've seen in school recently: a woman that carried a child has died, but the child could still live, only the woman needed to be made into a "vegetable" until the child could be born. There was someone in my class that was saying that the child couldn't be happy, which is the same here i guess. But i answered to him, that the child had the right to pursuit happiness, and if you won't let gay/lesbian people adopt or something else for that matter, then you're against the right of mankind, because then you won't let the child have to right to pursuit happiness. Therefor i think it's perfectly possible for them to have children.

[Hisuwashi]

Originally Posted by MMM

All children receive some sort of harrassment or hazing. It's no reason to disallow gays from adopting children.

I know, I had considered mentioning that. However, at least I would find I would consider myself unnatural and hate myself. Perhaps it differs from child to child, you hear these phrases 'like father like son' and so on... would these children be gay like their parents? It's sometimes the psychological effects that hurt the most... I know kids would have bullied me just because I would have been easy to bully.

As for this, political correctness gone WAY too far...

Now <i>Brits</i> ban 'mum' and 'dad'

What next? The kids won't be allowed to use their own names? Perhaps they'll be branded like cattle.

[MissMisa]

Originally Posted by Hisuwashi

I know, I had considered mentioning that. However, at least I would find I would consider myself unnatural and hate myself. Perhaps it differs from child to child, you hear these phrases 'like father like son' and so on... would these children be gay like their parents? It's sometimes the psychological effects that hurt the most... I know kids would have bullied me just because I would have been easy to bully.

As for this, political correctness gone WAY too far...

Now <i>Brits</i> ban 'mum' and 'dad'

What next? The kids won't be allowed to use their own names? Perhaps they'll be branded like cattle.

That's not a big thing really. Hardly any teachers talk about your 'mum and dad.' They almost always refer to it as 'parents,' or if it is a letter it always says 'dear parent or guardian.'