Pres. Obama and Nobel Peace Prize

[noodle]

最初の投稿者：Sangetsu

Many people were nominated for this prize, people who were not famous politicians. People who did good for the world by helping others with their actions and not just with words. Giving Obama the prize was a snub to those who were much more deserving of it.

I wish my English was good enough to have come up with this paragraph from the start. It's perfect

[JayAyeAre]

最初の投稿者：MMM

I would like to hear about the new policies that Obama single-handily enacted that takes more money from your paycheck.

Every other industrialized nation in the world has national health-care. Do you want to stop paying for police and fire, too? How about interstate highways? All socialist acts that force people to pay.

He pushed and passed the first stimulus plan that did absolutely nothing but raise my and fellow working Americans taxes. He is trying to get the democrats in congress to pass his health-care reform bill that is filled with pork, so much pork that none of the republicans are voting for it and many blue-dog democrats are apprehensive to even consider voting for it; because they know if they do the people in their district will vote for another representative, one who doesn't favor tax increase.

And why does everyone come to America for drastic operations and procedures? not national gov't paid healthcares like in Cuba and Denmark, or any other european socialist country for that matter.
Nope, they come to america cause we have the best doctors.

I hope you live in America MMM as in full citizenship where the Gov't is now taxing without representation because It seems you only know about Obama in a "person not living in America" way.

[JayAyeAre]

最初の投稿者：MMM

I would like to hear about the new policies that Obama single-handily enacted that takes more money from your paycheck.

Every other industrialized nation in the world has national health-care. Do you want to stop paying for police and fire, too? How about interstate highways? All socialist acts that force people to pay.

He pushed and passed the first stimulus plan that did absolutely nothing but raise my and fellow working Americans taxes. He is trying to get the democrats in congress to pass his health-care reform bill that is filled with pork, so much pork that none of the republicans are voting for it and many blue-dog democrats are apprehensive to even consider voting for it; because they know if they do the people in their district will vote for another representative, one who doesn't favor tax increase.

And why does everyone come to America for drastic operations and procedures? not national gov't paid healthcares like in Cuba and Denmark, or any other european socialist country for that matter.
Nope, they come to america cause we have the best doctors.

I hope you live in America MMM as in full citizenship where the Gov't is now taxing without representation because It seems you only know about Obama in a "person not living in America" way.

Obama raising taxes:
Obama's Budget: Almost $1 Trillion in New Taxes Over Next 10 yrs, Starting 2011 - Political Punch
http://blogs.reuters.com/james-petho...o-raise-taxes/

[noodle]

I'm no expert on how the Healthcare system works in the US, but dismissing Europe as whole isn't such a wise thing to do... Repeatedly, over and over, the French Healthcare system has proven to be the best in the developed world! The US is great in many ways, but I'm sure they could learn something from the French Healthcare system

[JayT]

最初の投稿者：JayAyeAre

He pushed and passed the first stimulus plan that did absolutely nothing but raise my and fellow working Americans taxes. He is trying to get the democrats in congress to pass his health-care reform bill that is filled with pork, so much pork that none of the republicans are voting for it and many blue-dog democrats are apprehensive to even consider voting for it; because they know if they do the people in their district will vote for another representative, one who doesn't favor tax increase.

And why does everyone come to America for drastic operations and procedures? not national gov't paid healthcares like in Cuba and Denmark, or any other european socialist country for that matter.
Nope, they come to america cause we have the best doctors.

I hope you live in America MMM as in full citizenship where the Gov't is now taxing without representation because It seems you only know about Obama in a "person not living in America" way.

It doesn't really matter how much proof you have to why Obama shouldn't get the prize, or why he isn't helping the country. MMM will defend him anyway. It's an impossible argument. Yet we all know what the majority thinks about this whole deal, that's all that really matters.

[darksyndrem]

最初の投稿者：JayT

It doesn't really matter how much proof you have to why Obama shouldn't get the prize, or why he isn't helping the country. MMM will defend him anyway. It's an impossible argument. Yet we all know what the majority thinks about this whole deal, that's all that really matters.

Along with pretty much every argument that goes on in these forums. Speaking of which, where's mercedesjin?

[JayT]

最初の投稿者：darksyndrem

Along with pretty much every argument that goes on in these forums. Speaking of which, where's mercedesjin?

Political arguments are the worst in general.

[MMM]

最初の投稿者：Sangetsu

Many people were nominated for this prize, people who were not famous politicians. People who did good for the world by helping others with their actions and not just with words. Giving Obama the prize was a snub to those who were much more deserving of it.

Who?

Name the nominees that were "snubbed".

[MMM]

最初の投稿者：JayAyeAre

He pushed and passed the first stimulus plan that did absolutely nothing but raise my and fellow working Americans taxes. He is trying to get the democrats in congress to pass his health-care reform bill that is filled with pork, so much pork that none of the republicans are voting for it and many blue-dog democrats are apprehensive to even consider voting for it; because they know if they do the people in their district will vote for another representative, one who doesn't favor tax increase.

And why does everyone come to America for drastic operations and procedures? not national gov't paid healthcares like in Cuba and Denmark, or any other european socialist country for that matter.
Nope, they come to america cause we have the best doctors.

I hope you live in America MMM as in full citizenship where the Gov't is now taxing without representation because It seems you only know about Obama in a "person not living in America" way.

President Bush's administration and the Repulican congress passed the "first stimulus plan" not President Obama. You have not yet been affected by Obama's tax changes, so just know thy enemy.

And many Americans leave America to get medical procedures, too. People often come to America because they cannot be denied care by law. I know lots of Japanese that go to Japan for all medical procedures because 1) it is cheaper to buy a plane ticket and use Japan's national health care coverage rather than American's insurance that is paid to deny coverage, so it works both ways.

But I think I am getting a little off topic...

[MMM]

最初の投稿者：JayT

It doesn't really matter how much proof you have to why Obama shouldn't get the prize, or why he isn't helping the country. MMM will defend him anyway. It's an impossible argument. Yet we all know what the majority thinks about this whole deal, that's all that really matters.

No one has put up any "proof" why the president shouldn't get the prize, or how he isn't helping the international community (which is what the prize is about).

And I know exactly what the naysayers think, too. I wish it were more based in reality than just pure hatred, like so many of the right-wing talk show hosts.

最初の投稿者：noodle

I'm no expert on how the Healthcare system works in the US, but dismissing Europe as whole isn't such a wise thing to do... Repeatedly, over and over, the French Healthcare system has proven to be the best in the developed world! The US is great in many ways, but I'm sure they could learn something from the French Healthcare system

This I can wholly agree with.