LOST, Series Finale.
 

So Lost ended today, it was an good show. I didn't like the fact that many plot points were never explained.
Sure, the last 15 minutes of "The End" were pretty wretched, and that's when I gave up all hope that this was going to turn into something awesome. But rewind an hour and a half, to the moment when I suddenly realized I didn't give two craps whether Desmond pulled a rock out of a hole. Or whether Jack put a rock back into that same hole, I just didn't care.

I ask, no, I plea to any member who saw the show to help me understand this unanswered question.

1. Why does the island move?
2. Who made the huge four-toed statue?
3. Why does it only have four toes?
4. Why is the island a super-magnet?
5. Where did Jacob’s and Smokey’s step-mother come from
6. Who taught Jacob the secrets of the island?
7. How did the Dharma Initiative construct massive complexes?
8. How did the Dharma Initiative learn about the island?
9. How could Richard travel off the island?
10. Why did Smokey need Locke’s body when there are plenty of corpses around?
11. Why can’t Smokey just fly over the sonar fence?
12. Why does a ring of ash protect against Smokey?
13. How does Walt figure into the end-game?
14. What’s the significance of the numbers and how are the connected to Jacob?
14. So what was the alternative reality?
15. Why were they missing people in the church? They were part of the alternative reality and the group in the island.

Oh well, perhaps we were never meant to know those now trivial, yet important, aspects of Lost.

I am still trying to figure it out myself. I don't think we were going to get answers to all the questions, as a lot of those questions were made moot by the idea that the island was a stop-off to the "heaven" by everyone that died on Oceanic 815.

So glad the show ended!!! I could not understand that show for the life of me!! Hated it ever since it came on.

Totally agree with you. I watched the first half of the first series and just couldn't get into it, it was too slow-paced and convoluted for my liking. After reading the latest spoilers to the final episode I'm glad I didn't stick at it! There's too many unanswered questions, and the whole 'it's really purgatory' angle has been done so much it's nearly cliche as 'it's all a dream'.

I think it will go down as probably one of the best series ever on television. The reason it worked as well as it did was not the story as much as the depth of the characters. There has never been a show like it and it was able to make some daring shifts over its six seasons. Naturally this is all just personal opinion, but I do think now that it is over it is worth giving a look on DVD.

I half expected it to be a dream, via the dog. I hated the show since day one...I'm glad its over.

While I respect the opinions of the members here, I don't understand why here, and on other forums, people that were "not" fans are glad the show is over.
Is not like the money to produce the show came out of their pockets, is not like they were forced to see a show they did not like, is not like Lost was the only show that was on during that time. So why be glad that something that millions of people did like ended? You might have not liked the show, you might have hated the show, and maybe you just didn't understand it, but the fact is that is was a good show, I get that you didn't like it, but millions of fans who did can't be wrong. I never saw or liked "Sex in the city", "The Sopranos", "The Brady bunch" , just to mention a few, but I wasn't "glad" they ended, I know they ended but have no idea when did they actually end. Not just because I didn't like those shows it meant they were no good. They had a big and faithful following, but I just didn't like those shows, and by no means was glad they ended.

1. Why does the island move?

It got tired being in the same old place.

2. Who made the huge four-toed statue?

People did, back in the stone age.

3. Why does it only have four toes?

Apparently they only knew how to count to four when they were making it. Evolution takes time you know.

4. Why is the island a super-magnet?



5. Where did Jacob’s and Smokey’s step-mother come from?

Do I really have explain how human reproduction process works?

6. Who taught Jacob the secrets of the island?

Well duh! You too would learn all the secrets about the island in which you're stuck for centuries.

7. How did the Dharma Initiative construct massive complexes?

Seriously, you never seen a building being constructed?

8. How did the Dharma Initiative learn about the island?

Good question.

9. How could Richard travel off the island?

It turns out Jakob forgot to tell him that he can leave the island whenever he wants.

10. Why did Smokey need Locke’s body when there are plenty of corpses around?

There were no corpes that had Locke's sexy eyes.

11. Why can’t Smokey just fly over the sonar fence?

Because Smokey is afraid of heights. Nobody's perfect you know.

12. Why does a ring of ash protect against Smokey?

Smokey's allergic to ash.

13. How does Walt figure into the end-game?

???

14. What’s the significance of the numbers and how are they connected to Jacob?

What kind of show about a mysterious super magnetic island with a smoke monster and people who don't age would be if it didn't have mystic numbers that mean nothing along with it?

15. So what was the alternative reality?

It's a happy place where people go after they go through a freaky adventure on a mysterious Island.

16. Why were they missing people in the church? They were part of the alternative reality and the group in the island.

Again ???

I know, and I hate that they came up with all this strange events that somehow seemed crucial for the development of the story and its characters and we will never know why and how they occurred.

And about the whole idea about everyone being dead at the island, have you ever heard or read about a short story called "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge"? In the fewest words possible, is about a Confederate sympathizer who gets capture and sentence to death by hanging. As his body begins to fall, the noose breaks, he swims unharmed and heads back home to meet his wife, just as soon as he begins to embrace his wife he some how gets transported back to where he was being hanged and dies at the noose. It seems the he never escaped the noose, it was all a part of his imagination.

Do you think that the same thing happen to the passengers of Oceanic 815?
That they really did not survive the accident and since they all died the same way, they experienced the same illusion of survival as a whole?
And that the Church/Alternative reality was merely a purgatory of sorts where they could all meet and move on as a whole?

That's what I think, I might not be correct but I'm sticking to my story dammit!

After all, the show ended exactly as it began, by Jack on the ground in the bamboo field. Only difference was that this time the dog kept him company.

Now I am ionterested in watching this show.

Well, I agree and disagree with you. In one part I understand that the mysteries of the island and the passengers needed to stay a mystery, after all, if David Copperfield performs an illusion and reveals the secret of the illusion, much like the masked magician, the mystic is lost. So fine keep those mysteries a secret.
But there are a few "plot points" that needed some sort of resolution. Walt Lloyd for instance, ok we get it, the kid has magical power, but if he is so important (as showed in the 1st ans 2nd season) where is he? I know that we saw Walt off the island when Ben took Locke to visit him, that's not what I mean, what I don't get is if he was so important, why did we not see him again? Why did his importance played no role in the end? Another thing that needed to be told was just does Jacob travel of island and get back to the island?

I don't know, I have enough to go on and on but maybe at another time.

Also, somebody in another forum recommended the movie "Passengers"
Passengers (2008)
(I'm not sure if links are permitted or not. If not, feel free to delete the link
mods)

I just saw it today and I felt cheated, not by the movie but by the show.
This movie came out in 2008 and if Lost fans decide to see it for themselves, they'll know what I mean.
The movie is decent and I assure you that regardless of how you feel about Lost, you'll enjoy this movie. And if TheLastFortnight hasn't seen the Lost series finale, see the movie first.

Perfect answer!

After investing so much viewing time in the show and spending years following these characters no ending could really satisfy me. I'm perfectly okay with leaving some plot lines open but I think they left too many questions unanswered. I wish there could now be a completely sideways story featuring Ben, Locke, Sayid, Jin and Desmond. I'm going to miss those guys. :vsign:

Great thread!A lot of information!

I agree. I admit that i tried to get into it, but the plot was just too stupid to be in a show. It should've ended a lot faster!!! :exballoon: :chikasfrown:

I only watch the beginning of the show, I was not interested in it.

The thing i dont understand is alot of these question were answered long ago dude. If u were watching the show, there should only be a couple question on that list that should be ailing you. I would go into detail about all of them, but im sure lostpedia.com has all those answers for you. I vowed myself not to use lostpedia myself so that i may understand the show and majority of those question can be explained.

I dont think they go into detail about the movement of the island but if you know remotely anything about spacetime and the electromagnetic involvement you should be able to figure that out. Statue was built by Egyptians obviously and it is a Egyptian Goddess of Fertility The Goddess only has four toes in Egyptian mythos. They werent dead on the island; the island was real. It had some link with the afterlife obviously, but it existed. Dharma found the island by photos taken by the Army back in the 1960's. Jacob has used the lighthouse to guide others to the island before. Shouldnt be too hard for you to figure that one out. Seriously though dude if youve been watching this show for this long and u have to ask about the freakin statue then something is wrong. I mean yeah the show is complex, but youre lost on that? Seriously? I dont even know why u liked the show in the first place if such things werent apparent. References to Kirkegaard, Alice and Wonderland, Star Wars, 18th century philosophy, etc, did you not pick up on that? Did you not see the references on Time travel that were etched on the freighter?

I would highly recommend that you go to lostpedia.com if you werent able to pick these things out yourself. You'll be amazed on how deep the show is for one, and you'll probably realize why it ended as it did. No disrespect to you; as a fellow Lost fan, i would love to hear that received the totality of Lost before you judge the ending. If you dont understand even remotely the totality of Lost leading upto the Ending, how the hell can you accurately discuss the validity of the ending?

Thats y i have no clue what half of these ppl are saying on this board. 'I watched lost for 2 season made no sense glad i didnt watch it.' If you watch a third of the show, and that which you watched made no sense to you, how can you judge the ending? that makes no sense. Think of how dumb most brilliant movies would be if you when off the first 20 mins then the end? Please; dont be ridiculous. Especially when its a show that was BUILT for a 6 season series. Majority of TV series go from season to season, ergo are episodic than lost. They dont contain the level of depth and cohesion due to the simple fact that they dont know if theyll even continue long enough to explain their reasoning. If you have watched the entire show, gone through Lostpedia.com and are COMPLETELY LOST ( because lostpedia.com doesnt explain everything), then you can say you despised it to your hearts content and i would have no qualms with that. But dont discuss ur disdain for a show you watched for 2 seconds. Especially in the way Lost was created. Next thing i know is youre going to tell me that you didnt realize the Valenzetti Equation, or the smoke monster appearing on every title sequence.

Sure thing. All my teachers at uni find themselves having to mention Lost every now and then cause this show is so great it has everything in it. The plot's so twisted and the characters are all so great and deepley defined. It is the best show ever in the History of Television Shows, without a doubt. I'm in Film Studies, I've had many subjects in scriptwriting and have had to watch many tv series and trust me, Lost is as good as fiction can get on a screen.

Sorry my reply comes in kinda late, I'm the biggest fan and had to share my input on this.

I saw it and I wasn't thrilled with the ending, so, in the words of Mythbusters' Adam Savage, "I reject your reality and substitute my own".

Really? I liked how it ended. It's what TheLastFortnight said, the enigma is what kept us going, but letting us know every single answer wouldn't have made the show better. Moreover, I would have been cool with it if season 3 had been the last one. It would've made such a GREAT end. Epic. Most people would have been pissed but so what, it's okay to not reveal every mystery, and that would have been one hell of a way to leave us all wondering. I must say though, the entire 6th season was... a tad bit slow. But I still liked it. Lost has to be analyzed as a whole, and those who quit watching it after the first few episodes or dropped the series after one or two seasons don't get to have an opinion on the whole thing.

Doesn't it happen to you guys that you get all excited when you see one of the characters in other shows? haha xD Like, when I saw Jacob in Dexter I was like, OMG! OMG! It's Jacob! xDDD And everytime he'd appear on the screen I'd be like "Psssh stop calling him Paul, it's Jacob!". And Charlie. Tell me you can actually watch the Lord of the Rings, see Charlie there and be able to think of him as a character other than Charlie. He was my favorite too... RIP Charlie Pace, forver missed <3

Oh by the watch, watch this. Brings me to tears everytime.

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Uhuh. Usually, fans of ultra stupid sitcoms like *friends* or *alf* express hatred towards to LOST.
I guess, they expected to see the same silly faces in the mentioned show as well as idiotic chuckle every fifteen seconds.:)

Hey! Hardcore fan of Friends here. :mad: And there's nothing resembling stupidity in Friends.

It's ok, not everyone has to like the same things. And since it is Lost we are talking about, some people might find it too complicated to catch on. I watched the first three seasons straight through, like I'd watch up to 5 or 6 episodes a day. And after that I just couldn't stop, it got me hooked to no end. It killed me having to wait an entire year for another season to come up, and then wait from week to week, then again an entire year for the next season arghhhh the wait had me going up the walls. But some people just can't get addicted. Can't find no source of interest. You have to be willing to enter its world of fiction and let it get to you. Otherwise you just get bored and lose focus. It's their loss though. However, I insist, those of you who stopped watching it cause you thought it wasn't worth your time, give it another try cause it's nothing like you've ever seen before and trust me, knowing how it ends won't ruin anything, cause it is impossible to understand the end unless you've seen it all. And it isn't as simple as to say the island is some sort of stage between life and death, cause it goes way beyond that.

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My apologies.

Anyway, I think that viewers of sitcoms and viewers of LOST are belongs to different groups. An average fan of sitcoms dislikes any "complicated" show.