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[bluejeanslady]

Originally Posted by Ronin4hire

I also know nothing about it.

But what I am hearing in the Western media is that while the Japanese are saying things like only a 12 km radius or something is affected, the US is not letting it's Navy ships or military personel within a 50 km radius.

So there does seem to be an inconsistency with what the Japanese are saying and what other countries like the USA and Russia are saying.

Also the French are accusing the Japanese government of being really uninformative and either lacking direction or being too secretive.

us force asked who is the responsable person in fikushima for this, to solve the problems together and get no answer, no one feels responsable .. us says 80 km is the distance, japanese says 20 km is enough ... everybody in the world knows radiation is not harmless and very very dangerous (its not a dentist visit) and japanese tells sth about close windows and doors and put sth on your head and stay inside, silly because radiation goes through walls .. so a lot of bullshit that people be quiet und believe furthermore ... try to help somebody who will not hear the truth ... it is unimpossible ... the question is, why go every foreigner in the south and outside ... and thanks good a lot of japanese people do the same ... good decision of course .. the chance that nothing will happen is very small, because there are 4-6 problems and not only one .. this is reason enough .. and if i see this 3-4 clown there surching completely confused in their papers i really know, they will solve no problem, they are confused ... we heard on tv they were not allowed to run away by the politicans ... was this an idea ? to run away ... this is a question ...

Originally Posted by bluejeanslady

us force asked who is the responsable person in fikushima for this, to solve the problems together and get no answer, no one feels responsable .. us says 80 km is the distance, japanese says 20 km is enough ... everybody in the world knows radiation is not harmless and very very dangerous (its not a dentist visit) and japanese tells sth about close windows and doors and put sth on your head and stay inside, silly because radiation goes through walls .. so a lot of bullshit that people be quiet und believe furthermore ... try to help somebody who will not hear the truth ... it is unimpossible ... the question is, why go every foreigner in the south and outside ... and thanks good a lot of japanese people do the same ... good decision of course .. the chance that nothing will happen is very small, because there are 4-6 problems and not only one .. this is reason enough .. and if i see this 3-4 clown there surching completely confused in their papers i really know, they will solve no problem, they are confused ... we heard on tv they were not allowed to run away by the politicans ... was this an idea ? to run away ... this is a question ...

sorry, i forgot to tell: this 3 completely confused clowns donnot solve any problem - they are the problem ... hope sb other do this job very quickly now and save all our lives worldwide ... wake up ...

Originally Posted by eezy1

what are you gonna say on Monday when japan is still alive and kicking?

nobody can say what will happen .. news on n-tv: at moment they have some results with reactor 3 but the dangerous is not banned .. food of the region is rediated ... a person is radiated by water ... people shall take jod drugs in the 20 km area ...

well, nobody can decide for you .. but if there is a dangerous situation its always better to go in distance .. the szenari that north japan including tokio is empty is horrible but possible ... we all hope that this worst case will not happen .. but wind will change on monday in direction tokio and the results in fukushima are not good at moment and specialists worldwide smile about the things they do there ... for this .. be happy for the time you have now to go in distance ... its always possible to return if nothing happen .. but if it happen it saves your health and your life .. thats an fact ... think, they have to solve 4-6 problems, not only one .. and they are not good in their job, if they would be this, this situation would not be .. the both other atom parcs donnot have such problems, they are o.k. ... yesterday we heard, it was missmanagement in the atomic parc ... and the same persons shall be able to solve this problems .. i donnot believe, really ...

Originally Posted by eezy1

what are you gonna say on Monday when japan is still alive and kicking?

it would be great, but this is complete unrealistic ... hope wind will not take it to tokio ... everybody worldwide hope that a wonder will happen at moment ... but it doesnt look very good .. they cannot really solve the problem without electricity and then is the question if they can stop anything what is going on there at moment .. it is a prozess ... and normally you cant stop this ... one week, i fear its too late ... we all hope the best, but every science says this way is unrealistic ... firemen with water is the last try, if the electric would function the chance is small, but this is a chance ... if not its over ...

Originally Posted by bluejeanslady

it would be great, but this is complete unrealistic ... hope wind will not take it to tokio ... everybody worldwide hope that a wonder will happen at moment ... but it doesnt look very good .. they cannot really solve the problem without electricity and then is the question if they can stop anything what is going on there at moment .. it is a prozess ... and normally you cant stop this ... one week, i fear its too late ... we all hope the best, but every science says this way is unrealistic ... firemen with water is the last try, if the electric would function the chance is small, but this is a chance ... if not its over ...

i just hear, they have electricity in reactor 2 but it is still the question how far the prozess was going on inside ... and the specialist all say, at saturday it must be solved, otherwise it is to late ...

just a specialist say in tv, if they will not be able to make all systems working tomorrow on saturday-sunday, its lost and super gau ... the prozess is working over one week now ... nobody can look inside .. but it is going on ...

Originally Posted by bluejeanslady

i just hear, they have electricity in reactor 2 but it is still the question how far the prozess was going on inside ... and the specialist all say, at saturday it must be solved, otherwise it is to late ...

correct, it is planed for today for reactor 1 +2 ... not working yet ...

info für deutsche: am flughafen osaka kriegen deutsche bisher noch einigermaßen bezahlbare tickets von der deutschen botschaft, die stehen da in orangen westen unübersehebar .. ein junger mann hat es so raus geschafft ...

ach so, euch deutschen muß man ja nicht erst sagen, das ihr da ja sofort abhaut, zumindest in den süden mindestens osaka ... ich drücke euch allen die daumen ... der wind dreht ab sonntag-montag auf tokio .. im moment ist radioaktivität lt. den meßergebnissen der amis in der 30 km no-go-zone sehr ernst, aber außerhalb noch o.k. ... dennoch, die lage ist lt. aussage der amis sehr ernst ... und die haben ja auch erfahrung mit ihren störfällen ... von daher, die sagen auch es ist ernst ...

und meine anmerkung, lt. tv info sollen die drei clowns, die da vor der laufenden kamera wie wild und konfus in den papieren wühlen, diese mißstände in dem akw selber durch mißmanagement und wartungsmängeln verursacht haben, und genau die sollen das problem nun lösen .. da lachen ja die hühner .. wer glaubt denn das bitte ?! ... naja, auf jeden fall doch kein deutscher ...

[eezy1]

please give the little reporter in ur head a break lady

[bluejeanslady]

.. und ist ja komisch, da sollte in kürze einiges veraltetes ja abgschaltet werden, kann ja sein das man da schonmal an der sicherheit gespart hat, wäre ja möglich .. ist doch auch komisch, das die beiden akws oben und unten davon auch das beben und den tsunamie hatten, aber alle probleme beheben konnten ... vielleicht sollte man diese akw leiter mal zur hilfe holen, die scheinen ja dann fähiger zu sein in ihrem job ...

sorry, wenn mir einer so vor der kamera begegnet, überfordert, nervös, konfus und sich in den eigenen papieren nicht zurechtfindet, dann vertraue ich dem ganz bestimmt kein akw an und schon gar keine havarie die derjenige selber verursacht hat .. da ist aber schluß mit lustig .. dem traue ich doch nicht mehr über den weg ... außerdem wurde da im tv was gefaselt, die japanische regierung hätte denen untersagt davonzulaufen .. na, dann hatten sie das ja wohl vor oder ?! ... alles sehr suspekt ... mir gehen da sämtliche alarmglocken an und genau die drei würde ich mir mal kräftig zur brust nehmen bis die wahrheit ans licht kommt .. aber momentan sollen sie ja japan retten ... also ich bin dagegen und erwarte das die umgehend fähige spezialisten da einsetzen die den job machen .. aber ich habe schon gehört, das die japaner nicht hören und alles besser wissen ... was sagt man dazu ... tja, hier kommt alles an, die welt wird auf der kompletten aufklärung dieser sauerei auch bestehen, also könnt ihr doch gleich mal farbe bekennen ... und das was da stattfindet empfinde ich persönlich alles als diletantisch und unprofessionell .. ich frage mich nur warum die welt sich das gefallen läßt .. immerhin kann ja noch mehr passieren weltweit durch den ganzen mist an eruptionen usw. ... also, als kritischer mensch sträuben sich mir die nackenhaare hoch bei dem ganzen blödsinn der das stattfindet ... die berichterstattung im hiesigen tv ist nicht grad vertrauenserweckend ... ich bin der meinung, man muß international da eingreifen, die amis sind ja vor ort, denen würde ich die lösung zutrauen ... ich hoffe da greift mal einer ein ...

.. die haben das in der woche nicht in den griff gekriegt, warum sollen die das jetzt in den griff kriegen .. außerdem, die haben 4-6 baustellen, nicht nur eine, also auch unrealistisch ... und die lassen ihre eigenen leute, die mühselig von internationalen rettungskräften, in einem abstand von nur 20-30 km da sitzen ohne trinken, essen, heizung, ärztliche versorgung, statt diese dann wenigstens mal ein stück weiter wegzubringen wo sie hilfe bekommen könnten weil die infrasturktur noch existiert .. ich verstehe zwei dinge nicht: wenn man diese leute rettet, warum denn dann nicht gleich richtig, das wäre konsequent ... und zweitens: warum guckt die ganze welt zu, die kriegen das nicht in den griff, also muß man international eingreifen .. immerhin kann es uns alle betreffen, die erdkuste ist nur eine brüchige eierschale ... also, ich hoffe man greift da nun sofort ein ... das herunterspielen der gefahr sollte grund genug sein ... und klar kann man massen evakuieren, wenn man mal vor 7 tagen damit angefangen hätte, es ist besser es zu versuchen als gar nichts zu tun .. was soll diese fixierung auf die havarie, das kann ja parallel laufen, aber raus mit den leuten ...

[MMM]

Originally Posted by bluejeanslady

and i am not lying, every single word is the truth ... why should i lie, i will help people because you get wrong information .. in your country is said everything is easy, it dosent matter, close windows and doors and put sth on your head, just stay inside ... in fact of radiation this is completely surreal ... who believe in that ? .. if there is radiation in the air or water you get very ill and you will die ... thats a fact ... its no joke ... its not like going to the dentist .. its really dangerous for you and your family ... we are 900 km far away from thernobyl and we know what we are talking about ... it was in the air, in the food, in our minds and its actual up to today, the problem is not solved at moment ... and this is 25 years ago ... inform yourself, you have internet ... just look .. you see, i donnot lie with any single word.. this is the truth ... i am realistic ...

I think it is time for you to stop. I live on the West Coast of the United States, and the fringe media is very excited to report that radiation from Japan has reached our country. They are less enthused about reporting that the level or radiation that has reached us isn't enough to harm a butterfly.

[bluejeanslady]

also. egal wie die japaner das nun sehen, ich sage nur, amis help .. die sind mit dem flugzeugträger direkt vor ort, es wäre nett wenn ihr da mal eingreift, kann man die küste nicht wegbomben, das alles unter wasser steht mit euren waffen, das wäre evtl. eine schnelle effektive lösung .. dann ist der fall erledigt und das problem erstmal gelöst .. verbuddeln kann man es dann ja nachher ...

[MMM]

I cannot read what you are writing, so I need German speakers to tell me if it is within the rules.

I would ask you post in English or Japanese so that mods can regulate.

[bluejeanslady]

Originally Posted by MMM

I think it is time for you to stop. I live on the West Coast of the United States, and the fringe media is very excited to report that radiation from Japan has reached our country. They are less enthused about reporting that the level or radiation that has reached us isn't enough to harm a butterfly.

yes you are right, i see no problem with radiation for you oder for me, thats only in a radius from 500 miles ... but i see other problems for us all ... i wrote, earth rotation, new earth quakes, eruption, thats possible ... and over this i fell with the poor people in japan in this area ... so, thats funny, my last comment was to aks the us marine to help in this situation .. i think the international specialists must do this job ... i do not trust these japanes who make all harmless ... they made the disaster and the same people will not solve it, thats logically ... for this, i hope the amis do anything for help now ...

Originally Posted by MMM

I cannot read what you are writing, so I need German speakers to tell me if it is within the rules.

I would ask you post in English or Japanese so that mods can regulate.

oh, i didnt think about, o.k. i write in english, tomorrow, now i go to bed ... i sayed in german the same than in english before ... i am very angry about this three nuclear park manager who are confused in front of the camera and i donnot believe that this clowns will solve any problem, they are the problem .. thats what i wrote ...

[MMM]

Originally Posted by bluejeanslady

yes you are right, i see no problem with radiation for you oder for me, thats only in a radius from 500 miles ... but i see other problems for us all ... i wrote, earth rotation, new earth quakes, eruption, thats possible ... and over this i fell with the poor people in japan in this area ... so, thats funny, my last comment was to aks the us marine to help in this situation .. i think the international specialists must do this job ... i do not trust these japanes who make all harmless ... they made the disaster and the same people will not solve it, thats logically ... for this, i hope the amis do anything for help now ...

I don't know what your credentials are, but you speak as an expert, but what I am seeing almost everywhere is different from what you are saying.

[bluejeanslady]

Originally Posted by bluejeanslady

also. egal wie die japaner das nun sehen, ich sage nur, amis help .. die sind mit dem flugzeugträger direkt vor ort, es wäre nett wenn ihr da mal eingreift, kann man die küste nicht wegbomben, das alles unter wasser steht mit euren waffen, das wäre evtl. eine schnelle effektive lösung .. dann ist der fall erledigt und das problem erstmal gelöst .. verbuddeln kann man es dann ja nachher ...

free english translation : amis help .. maybe it is possible to bomb the coast in front of the problem reactors and then is all under water ... its an idea, maybe it works ... you could do this .. better one beach more which is later filled up with sand and cement than a super gau ...


oh i just hear on tv, who is only speaking japanese trust the official information and english speaking japanese dont trust and made own decisions .. interesting ...

Originally Posted by MMM

I don't know what your credentials are, but you speak as an expert, but what I am seeing almost everywhere is different from what you are saying.

look n-tv, it is informing hole day and night .. very interesting ... a lot of specialists are interviewed there ... over this we have the experience with thernobyl here in germany ... and it was not funny ... and thernobyl isnt secure up to today, they are still working of a new sarcophag because they have problems there .. we all here hope they will finish this the next years, because every minute can happen this catastrophy again here ... of course we are always in fear ...

[RealJames]

Originally Posted by bluejeanslady

oh, i didnt think about, o.k. i write in english, tomorrow, now i go to bed ... i sayed in german the same than in english before ... i am very angry about this three nuclear park manager who are confused in front of the camera and i donnot believe that this clowns will solve any problem, they are the problem .. thats what i wrote ...

managers are muppets lol, just talking heads, the workers and scientists know what they're doing more than well enough