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View Poll Results: End kanji in japan
Yes 12 17.14%
No 54 77.14%
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11-16-2011, 01:39 PM

Ok to make things clear my partner is a real japanese born in japan.

Thing is this, the kanji only seem to make things shorter, but its hardly the case. The kanji symbols themselves are so difficult to write, that they kill any time you save with it. So like the other person wrote a shorter japanese sentence with kanji, its actually a lot longer if you had to write it all down, in other words.

Kanji is not logical. Actually the whole japanese language isn't logical, i think its a very romantic and beautifull language, but logic not quite.

I am actually suprised and don't understand why so many people are in favor of kanji, its chinese anyway it doesn't belong to your language, its difficult and illogical.

I myself don't mind doing the effort of learning it, but my partner says its illogical, and based on how much effort it takes to write it down i tend to say i agree. So i wondered if more japanese people felt this way.
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11-16-2011, 01:48 PM

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So i wondered if more japanese people felt this way.
You already have one against: masaegu....

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11-16-2011, 02:04 PM

Again:

Pragmatism: Yes.
Cultural: No.

I won't try to change it anyway, I just like the challenge. Besides if they did change the writing system, it wouldn't be as awesome as it is now.
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11-16-2011, 02:15 PM

Can they change it? Yes. Should they do it? NO

How many years will that take? Its not a big bang, you can't expect to change the system and the next day, people are all converted and FULLY literate (Note I capped FULLY)

It has nothing to do with what it where its from, its part of the culture. The last I checked, MOST European language had some ingredient of English, and many shared the same alphabet but employed the use of accent. Maybe they should stop using the same set of alphabet then? Its English anyways?
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11-16-2011, 02:37 PM

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I am actually suprised and don't understand why so many people are in favor of kanji, its chinese anyway it doesn't belong to your language, its difficult and illogical.
i guess you want to get rid of french or romance-influenced words in english. too bad this is impossible.
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11-17-2011, 10:10 AM

My answer is NO.
It's just so much cooler to have Kanji, and as a Japanese who studies in China, I probably have the biggest advantage over other foreign students in learning Chinese
I've heard that Korean used to use Chinese characters like us but at some point decided not to. I wonder if for Korean to read their language is similar for Japanese to read an article all written in Hiragana...
Anyways, I can't imagine for Kanji to desappear from Japanese language!!
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11-17-2011, 08:50 PM

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Ok to make things clear my partner is a real japanese born in japan.
Opposed to them pretend Japanese people that we hear so much about?

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Thing is this, the kanji only seem to make things shorter, but its hardly the case. The kanji symbols themselves are so difficult to write, that they kill any time you save with it. So like the other person wrote a shorter japanese sentence with kanji, its actually a lot longer if you had to write it all down, in other words.

Kanji is not logical. Actually the whole japanese language isn't logical, i think its a very romantic and beautifull language, but logic not quite.

I am actually suprised and don't understand why so many people are in favor of kanji, its chinese anyway it doesn't belong to your language, its difficult and illogical.

I myself don't mind doing the effort of learning it, but my partner says its illogical, and based on how much effort it takes to write it down i tend to say i agree. So i wondered if more japanese people felt this way.

You obviously do not know enough about the language to back up your argument. Kanji and Japanese as a whole is a very logical language.

英語より日本語の方が論理です。
More than English, Japanese is logical (Japanese is more logical than English).
Or as you would have a kanji-less translation

JAPANESEISMORELOGICALTHANENGLISH.

Take the word "live" for example. Did you read it as in "I live in England" or "I'm on live television?"

With kanji, this wouldn't be an issue.


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11-17-2011, 10:53 PM

But instead we have one kanji with 2 or more pronunciations
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But instead we have one kanji with 2 or more pronunciations
Shhhh! Who's side are you on?


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11-18-2011, 03:44 AM

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I am actually suprised and don't understand why so many people are in favor of kanji, its chinese anyway it doesn't belong to your language, its difficult and illogical.
Does the Roman alphabet come from your country? If not, why are you using it?

And you seem to have no idea that a large portion of the words used in English do not even come from English.

Annnd who cares if kanji are difficult for you or your GF? Fact is it works in Japan. It has worked here well over 1,000 years.

Finally, why the heck are you ignoring my remark that Japan has a virtually 100% literacy rate? If you cannot claim the same about your country, maybe it's your language that needs to be simplified, not Japanese.


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