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Post The revival of Cold War - 11-25-2011, 01:59 AM

Russia in Europe missile threat

23 November 2011 last updated at 19:09 GMT

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has warned that missiles could be deployed on the EU's borders if the US pursues its missile defence plans.

In a televised statement, he said "modern weapons systems" could be deployed in Kaliningrad if Russia, the US and Nato failed to come to a deal.

He added that Moscow may opt out of the New Start arms deal agreed with the US.

Nato chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen said he was "very disappointed" by Mr Medvedev's response.

Washington wants an anti-missile shield ready by 2020 but Moscow considers the idea a threat to its nuclear forces.

The US says the shield is intended to provide protection from the potential missile threat posed by countries like Iran.

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In respond to building of US anti-ballistic missile facilities in Poland, Romania, Turkey, Russia will deploy tactical intermediate-range missiles and target those ABM launch pads.
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11-25-2011, 03:01 AM

Honestly, we figured they allready were pointed at them, that ain't nothin new. Russia allways has been kinda paranoid. Won't stop us building the anti missle system though. The Nutjobs in Iran will launch a nuke tipped missle soon as it's ready to go, they believe they have to bring about the apocolypse in order for they "Great Mahadi" to show up, this guy is supposedly the reimbodied mohomed.

Though I supect the first nuke target will be Saudi Arbia, Iran and Saudi Arabia vieing for power in the so called "arab spring". Soon as one or the other brings about a new caliphate..most likely in Turkey, they will launch a combined attack on Isreal.

It will happen, they been saying as much for last several years. How the rest of world responds will be the interesting part.
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11-25-2011, 04:56 AM

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Nato chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen said he was "very disappointed" by Mr Medvedev's response.
the sudden economic crash of the european union may more dissapointed than the petty missile issues.

conventional democratic countries like the united kingdom or italy are killing the world economy. i believe this mister danish army man needs to set up his priorities properly.
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Smile kinda paranoid - 11-25-2011, 11:31 AM

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Honestly, we figured they allready were pointed at them, that ain't nothin new. Russia allways has been kinda paranoid. Won't stop us building the anti missle system though.
Oh, please This is based on solid calculations what all those US-owned radars or SM- 2 / SM-3 launch pads really intended for. The point of mentioned Medvedev's statement is not force you to abandon ABM facilities. Build them, if you wish. But in case of thermonuclear strikes between our countries your european servants aka Romania, Turkey etc will be punished at a very first moment of global war. ABM radars as well as launch pads / silos of interceptor missiles will be destroyed just prior to retaliation strike.
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11-25-2011, 11:38 AM

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But in case of thermonuclear strikes between our countries your european servants aka Romania, Turkey etc will be punished at a very first moment of global war.
What difference would it really make? Once you start something like that, it's pretty much over....
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11-26-2011, 04:49 AM

That's the point of a Missle defense system Term, It makes your missles useless. That's why Russia is all pissy, they have enough spy info from old KGB to know it works and don't like it being deployed so close. Basically cause then they can't bully Poland anymore. US missle tech is easily 20 years ahead of everybody elses. It's 30 years since SDI was first envisioned, more than enough time to have achieved viable working weapon platforms.

For instance, that Railgun the navy test fired.
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the point - 11-26-2011, 07:23 AM

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That's the point of a Missle defense system Term, It makes your missles useless. That's why Russia is all pissy, they have enough spy info from old KGB to know it works and don't like it being deployed so close.
Useless, you said? So when an american SM-3 succesfully intercepted an up-to-date Russian ICBM armed by nuclear or conventional warheads? Tell me any info about data and place of that wonderful field test of American ABM system.
Your ABM facilities just pose danger to strategic balance of nuclear weapons between Russia and USA.
Russia is not "pissy", Russian leadership just warns your administration as well as various loyal puppets / servants of the USA located in Europe and elsewhere to stop playng dangerous games nearby borders of Russian Federation. Plain and simple.
Furthermore, Russians need not gather info how-US ABM system-works " from old KGB agents" just because the very first succesful test of anti-ballistic missile interceptor took place in the USSR many years prior to demonstration of principles of Reagan's SDI to wide public.

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Basically cause then they can't bully Poland anymore..
Why do you think so? Russia is an independent state in foreign policy and need not follow advices of some sort of "pyramidal eye-in-the-sky" from Washington, DC

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US missle tech is easily 20 years ahead of everybody elses. It's 30 years since SDI was first envisioned, more than enough time to have achieved viable working weapon platforms.
Yep. That's why your family of up-to-date Atlas space rockets are equipped by Russian-built RD-180 engines, designed 20 years ago.
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11-27-2011, 05:22 AM

Nasa isn't the US military Term. Entirely two seperate departments, Nasa isn't even part of the Pentegon. AS for field testing, we pretty much saw what American made equipment does to Soviet equipment in Iraq and Afganistan.

The Patriot missle system is not our anti missle platform, that was an anti aircraft missle system that worked so well it could track slower moveing missles. The Anti missle systems radar is so advanced it can detect not only the movement of a basketball in miami, from DC, but can detect wich direction it's rotateing in.

Besides. It's Iran you should be worrid about, those kooks will launch a nuke soon as they have one operational, and really, who knows where they will send it.
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11-27-2011, 06:08 AM

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can detect not only the movement of a basketball in miami, from DC, but can detect wich direction it's rotateing in.
jesus. having a basketball tournament real close must be a nightmere, right?

stop masturbating for once about how awesome america is. you aren't smart enough to come up with valid points.
however, my comrade termograd here is smart enough to show you how cool the Russia is.
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11-27-2011, 07:44 AM

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however, my comrade termograd here is smart enough to show you how cool the Russia is.
as a wise chinese businessman says "russia's unique economic position is more powerful than the russian military".
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