are japanese Turanians?

[pureturk]

there is a big controvorsary over Japanese people being Turanian or not.
what do you guys think?
u may wanna learn from here.
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[Acidreptile]

And what is turanian?

[Maku]

Turan is the ancient Iranian name for Central Asia

From this map to prove my point, I will say no, as Japan is in the East of Asia.

[pureturk]

how does that map prove any point? will you explain a little bit more detailed?

[Acidreptile]

Wow Maku you brought a map...Cool info!

[Maku]

The quote is my backup, from the very link you gave me.

[pureturk]

well Turanian people are known to be nomads. could the japanese migrated to the present Japan island some time ago? the Iranian meaning of the word has no Geographical point. the word Turan or Turanian might have derived from an Iranian word. but that does not mean Turanians did not exist long before this word was invented right?

[Maku]

That's a good point.
It's possible that they could be, but I don't think all of them would be.
A minority perhaps, some kind of hidden bloodline?

[pureturk]

well a lot of linguists consider Japanese to be an Altaic language.

In 1909, Shinkichi Hashimoto found that Old Japanese had two groups of the vowels /i/, /e/, and /o/, so there were 8 vowels and everyone could distinguish them clearly, except those from the distant Aduma people in the East. Further studies on the usage and distinction of these vowels indicate that Old Japanese had vowel accordance, something close to vowel harmony, which is characteristic of Altaic languages like Turkish, Mongolian, and Tungusic languages. It's one of important aspects that indicates the relation of Altaic languages and Japanese, but this vowel accordance and even the distinction of two groups of vowels disappeared by the 10th century. Isn't this a linguistic version of same phenomena, that the average Japanese became 160 cm tall hundreds of years after the shock wave from Korea? As time passes, the Japanese language has been losing the characteristic Altaic part of its origin.

Origin of the Japanese People and Language

if you look at the structure of the Japanese words, its harmonical like Mongolian Hungarian Turkish.

for example

Mitsubishi
Yokohama
kawasaki

you see how the vowels are in harmonical order? ka-wa-sa-ki

and Turkish for example,

kanayan
derece
buyucu

same concept in Turkish

[crrichey]

It was my understanding that the Japanese were a mix of Korean and the natives (who were almost white).