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Jujutsuan 09-10-2010 08:05 PM

Trying to find original of this Japanese Painting
 
This was a project in my class and I want to see a bigger picture of it, and what it looked like before it was drawn over. Unless that is actually how it is suppose to look like... But I would like to see a larger (possible color) picture... Thank you

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7082/nonukes.jpg

And whoo hoo for first post :)

Thank you!

- J.

Miyukichan55 09-28-2010 03:49 AM

do u know the name of the picture or who it was done by? cus i would be glad to help u out with finding a better picture.

ryuurui 09-28-2010 10:12 AM

it was not drawn over.

http://em.m-out.com/ec/html/item/001/001/item638.html

Columbine 09-28-2010 04:16 PM

It is however, cribbed off of the style of Hokusai's series of views of Mt. Fuji.

ryuurui 09-28-2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 830894)
It is however, cribbed off of the style of Hokusai's series of views of Mt. Fuji.

it is also a kitsch

"cribbed off" - thanks Columbine, I've learned another piece of English :)

When I have read what you wrote, I looked at that painting once more, and I wondered if a word "creeped off" would me more suitable lol :D

Columbine 09-28-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ryuurui (Post 830904)
it is also kitsch

"cribbed off" - thanks Columbine, I've learned another piece of English :)

When I have read what you wrote, I looked at that painting once more, and I wondered if a word "creeped off" would me more suitable lol :D

It's weird. I don't like it much either.

Glad to have taught you something!

Sashimister 09-29-2010 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 830894)
It is however, cribbed off of the style of Hokusai's series of views of Mt. Fuji.

The original is by 昇亭北寿 (Shoutei Hokuju), a disciple of Hokusai.

And this didn't come from my knowledge; It's stated at bottom right of the drawing. :)

ryuurui 09-29-2010 08:37 AM

so in other words some freak painted it over? 奈良 美智? I can't believe it sells for 2 grand lol...

Sashimister 09-29-2010 08:49 AM

Neither can I, but this kind of thing happens in all forms of art, I guess.

Nyororin 09-29-2010 08:56 AM

He`s a world famous artist, not just some random guy. While I wouldn`t call that pic something representative, the other stuff he is famous for is probably the reason for the high price.

I have a signed print of one of his paintings...

Columbine 09-29-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 831001)
He`s a world famous artist, not just some random guy. While I wouldn`t call that pic something representative, the other stuff he is famous for is probably the reason for the high price.

I have a signed print of one of his paintings...

Who IS the artist Nyoro-san? It's not the guy who does the mad smiley daisies right?

Also i'm kicking myself. I HAVE a picture of the original in a book on my shelf; http://storage.canalblog.com/84/98/347638/29578754.jpg

but I didn't recognise it. Art faiiilllll~

Nyororin 09-29-2010 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 831060)
Who IS the artist Nyoro-san? It's not the guy who does the mad smiley daisies right?

You will probably recognize his stuff - here.

He has had some really huge exhibitions, and I believe even has some large scale art installations in New York.

ryuurui 10-01-2010 12:03 PM

which proves that people tend to relate to art through a heart of their pocket.

sad innit.

lol Columbine, it happens to me while I am studying calligraphy. I know I saw this kanji before, also wrote it gazillion times, but for the love of Buddha I can't recollect its meaning.

I think i need more RAM, or ... Geriavit.

as Sashimister pointed out, the real artist is
昇亭 北寿(しょうてい ほくじゅ、宝暦13年(1763年) ?‐文政7年(1824年)以降)は、江戸時代後期の浮世絵 である。 (from WIKI)

and the vandal was

奈良 美智
Yoshitomo Nara

Yoshitomo Nara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nyororin 10-01-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ryuurui (Post 831261)
and the vandal was

奈良 美智
Yoshitomo Nara

Yoshitomo Nara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You do realize that he didn`t draw on the original, correct?
It was on to a print - nothing was "vandalized", really.

Columbine 10-01-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 831099)
You will probably recognize his stuff - here.

He has had some really huge exhibitions, and I believe even has some large scale art installations in New York.

Oh, the Grumpy Little Girl artist~ Yes, I do recognize his works. I've not seen much on it in the UK, but i think you're right and it's had some considerable exposure in the USA.

ryuurui 10-03-2010 09:52 AM

so then, a print with some shit on it sells for 2 grand? lol... snobbism and stupidity will never cease to amaze me

Columbine 10-03-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuurui (Post 831528)
so then, a print with some shit on it sells for 2 grand? lol... snobbism and stupidity will never cease to amaze me

Well, look at Damien Hirst- he sells art for millions of pounds that he himself hasn't actually touched. He just designs them now and gives it to his students to actually make.

edelweiss 10-03-2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 831531)
Well, look at Damien Hirst- he sells art for millions of pounds that he himself hasn't actually touched. He just designs them now and gives it to his students to actually make.

Which is why Hirst is frequently compared to Warhol.

I think if you can make a name for yourself and make money from the art world while not touching a thing - more power to you.

I've been a fan of Nara's since I bought my first Shonen Knife album in 1998.


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