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THT136 01-06-2008 08:43 AM

Chinese “的” and Japanese "の"
 
hi,

Is the Chinese “的” and Japanese "の" virtually identical? If not, in what way are they different?

I'm referring to the terms as they are used in the below given examples:
私の車
我的車
(My car)


Thanks in advance!

MMM 01-06-2008 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THT136 (Post 348602)
hi,

Is the Chinese “的” and Japanese "の" virtually identical? If not, in what way are they different?

I'm referring to the terms as they are used in the below given examples:
私の車
我的車
(My car)


Thanks in advance!

I don't know Chinese, but the Japanese is like an ['s] in English...so maybe the same.

kIyo 01-06-2008 10:15 AM

i also don't know chinese. but that 的 is often used in place of の when japanese write phony chinese. that is one of the most well-known chinese chracters in japan.

Retrogamer77 01-06-2008 12:40 PM

I'm learning chinese in school and i can say that 'de' is similar to 'no'. But I've only seen 'de' used in a possessive manner. So while I'm not 100% sure that they are exactly the same I do know that they are similar. :D

DivineBled 01-06-2008 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrogamer77 (Post 348714)
I'm learning chinese in school and i can say that 'de' is similar to 'no'. But I've only seen 'de' used in a possessive manner. So while I'm not 100% sure that they are exactly the same I do know that they are similar. :D

you're correct "de" is used as a possessive manner. I've heard "no" used as a semi-possessive, though I am also unsure that "no" and "de" are the same manners.

DragonShade 01-07-2008 12:08 AM

they are similar , but note that Japanese also has 的(てき), For example 立体的(りったいてき) three dimension , but when its used as an adj It has to be 立体的+な

chin 01-10-2008 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THT136 (Post 348602)
hi,

Is the Chinese “的” and Japanese "の" virtually identical? If not, in what way are they different?

I'm referring to the terms as they are used in the below given examples:
私の車
我的車
(My car)


Thanks in advance!

It's just the same.
的 = 's.
Young Chinese know のtoo,
they even use it instead of 的 in their blogs.

jpdrag0n 01-10-2008 01:16 PM

wow thats cool. i never knew that 的 was possessive form in chinese. because its used for words in japanese such as 具体的 = concretely or 基本的 = basically.

chin 01-10-2008 02:00 PM

Yea right.
In japanese, it reads TEKI.
But the japanese TEKI doesnt mean NO.

THT136 01-10-2008 02:10 PM

Ah... Thanks a lot everyone.

Hey Chin, I believe that you are pretty well versed in the Chinese Language?

I have a question for you. Do you feel that learning Japanese with Chinese as the language medium would make the process significantly easier?
More specifically, do you feel that the Chinese grammar structure is closer to that of Japanese?
我想听听你的意见!

Regards.
THT


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