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You may be thinking too hard here. It is pretty straightforward unless the larger context proves what I'm going to say wrong.

"things continue to happenใ€€(to her)". Right?

Now what things? --> ใ€Œใ‚ชใƒฌใซ้‹ใ‚’ๅฅชใ‚ใ‚ŒใŸๅพŒใฟใŸใ„ใชใ“ใจใฐใ‹ใ‚Šใ€
---> "only the things that would happen (to someone) after his/her luck has been stolen by me".

"It's like only the bad things that happen to someone whose luck I have stolen keep happening to her."
That sounds right. I love your simple explanations, Thanks.


Here's two lines I need help with;
ใ€Œใใ‚Œใฃใฆใฒใฉใ„่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ†ใ ใญใ€
"That sounds like a bad name to called (?)"

ใ€Œใใ‚“ใช้ž็ง‘ๅญฆ็š„ใชใ“ใจไฟกใ˜ใ‚ใฃใฆๆ–นใŒ็„ก็†ใ ใ‚ˆใ€
"You can't possibly expect me to believe something so illogical"
ใ€Œๆ‰‹ใง่งฆใ‚‹ใจไป–ไบบใฎ้‹ใ‚’ๅธใ„ๅ–ใ‚‹ใชใ‚“ใฆใƒปใƒปใƒปใใ‚“ใชใฎ่ถ…่ƒฝๅŠ›ใจใ‹ใใ†ใ„ใ†ไธ–็•Œใฎ่ฉฑใ ใ‚ใ€
"Absorbing the luck of those you touch with your hands... supernatural powers like that are(? What does ไธ–็•Œใฎ่ฉฑ mean here?)"
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02-01-2011, 11:47 PM

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Here's two lines I need help with;
ใ€Œใใ‚Œใฃใฆใฒใฉใ„่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ†ใ ใญใ€
"That sounds like a bad name to called (?)"
Correct.

่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใ‚ˆใ†ใ€€๏ผใ€€่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œๆ–น = the way someone talks about you

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ใ€Œใใ‚“ใช้ž็ง‘ๅญฆ็š„ใชใ“ใจไฟกใ˜ใ‚ใฃใฆๆ–นใŒ็„ก็†ใ ใ‚ˆใ€
"You can't possibly expect me to believe something so illogical"
ใ€Œๆ‰‹ใง่งฆใ‚‹ใจไป–ไบบใฎ้‹ใ‚’ๅธใ„ๅ–ใ‚‹ใชใ‚“ใฆใƒปใƒปใƒปใใ‚“ใชใฎ่ถ…่ƒฝๅŠ›ใจใ‹ใใ†ใ„ใ†ไธ–็•Œใฎ่ฉฑใ ใ‚ใ€
"Absorbing the luck of those you touch with your hands... supernatural powers like that are(? What does ไธ–็•Œใฎ่ฉฑ mean here?)"
ใใ†ใ„ใ†ไธ–็•Œใ€€๏ผใ€€่ถ…่ƒฝๅŠ›ใฎไธ–็•Œใ€€๏ผใ€€the world of supernatural power

ใใ†ใ„ใ†ไธ–็•Œใฎ่ฉฑ = (It is) all about the world of supernatural power.
This ่ฉฑ is untranslatable. It does NOT mean "a talk". It's much closer to "a topic".
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02-01-2011, 11:56 PM

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Correct.
ใใ†ใ„ใ†ไธ–็•Œใ€€๏ผใ€€่ถ…่ƒฝๅŠ›ใฎไธ–็•Œใ€€๏ผใ€€the world of supernatural power

ใใ†ใ„ใ†ไธ–็•Œใฎ่ฉฑ = (It is) all about the world of supernatural power.
This ่ฉฑ is untranslatable. It does NOT mean "a talk". It's much closer to "a topic".
Hmm so would it be too much of a stretch to translate ใ€Œใใ‚“ใชใฎ่ถ…่ƒฝๅŠ›ใจใ‹ใใ†ใ„ใ†ไธ–็•Œใฎ่ฉฑใ ใ‚ใ€ as "Supernatural power like that is the stuff of fiction"?
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02-02-2011, 12:00 AM

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Hmm so would it be too much of a stretch to translate ใ€Œใใ‚“ใชใฎ่ถ…่ƒฝๅŠ›ใจใ‹ใใ†ใ„ใ†ไธ–็•Œใฎ่ฉฑใ ใ‚ใ€ as "Supernatural power like that is the stuff of fiction"?
No, not really because this speaker already sounds fairly skeptical of these phenomena.
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No, not really because this speaker already sounds fairly skeptical of these phenomena.
Cool, I'll go with that then.

I'm tryin' to ask as few questions as possible buuut I need help again;
ใ€Œใ‚‚ใ—ไปฎใซๅ›ใฎ่จ€ใ†ใ€Œ้‹ใ‚’ๅธใ„ๅ–ใ‚‹ๅŠ›ใ€ใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใ ใจใ—ใŸ ใ‚‰ใ€
If we assume that there really is a "power to absorb luck" like you say
ใ€Œไบบ้–“ใจใฃใฆใ€Œ้‹ใ€ใฏๅนปใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใใฆ็”Ÿใใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซๅฟ…่ฆใช ้คŠๅˆ†ใฟใŸใ„ใชๅญ˜ๅœจใจ่€ƒใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€
It's conceivable that "Luck" isn't intangible and is a necessary nutrient in order to live (? This sentence is kinda long so I'm not sure how to word it)
ใ€Œใใ‚ŒใŒๅฐฝใใŸใ‚‰ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆๆญปใฌใ‚ใ‘ใ ใ‚๏ผŸใ€
When it's used up, something happens and you die right?
ใ€Œ่Šฑๅ‡›ใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ใซ่ตทใ“ใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚„็พ็Šถใ‚’ใใ‚Œใจ็ต„ใฟๅˆใ‚ใ› ใฆ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใจใƒปใƒปใƒปใ€
If you consider that with what's been happening to Karin and her current condition... (?)
ใ€Œใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใใพใงๅƒ•ใฎไปฎ่ชฌใ ใ‘ใฉใ€
This is sticking strictly to my hypothesis though

Augh... almost done...
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I'm tryin' to ask as few questions as possible buuut I need help again;
ใ€Œใ‚‚ใ—ไปฎใซๅ›ใฎ่จ€ใ†ใ€Œ้‹ใ‚’ๅธใ„ๅ–ใ‚‹ๅŠ›ใ€ใŒๆœฌๅฝ“ใ ใจใ—ใŸ ใ‚‰ใ€
If we assume that there really is a "power to absorb luck" like you say
ใ€Œไบบ้–“ใจใฃใฆใ€Œ้‹ใ€ใฏๅนปใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใใฆ็”Ÿใใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซๅฟ…่ฆใช ้คŠๅˆ†ใฟใŸใ„ใชๅญ˜ๅœจใจ่€ƒใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ€
It's conceivable that "Luck" isn't intangible and is a necessary nutrient in order to live (? This sentence is kinda long so I'm not sure how to word it)
ใ€Œใใ‚ŒใŒๅฐฝใใŸใ‚‰ไฝ•ใ‹ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆๆญปใฌใ‚ใ‘ใ ใ‚๏ผŸใ€
When it's used up, something happens and you die right?
ใ€Œ่Šฑๅ‡›ใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ใซ่ตทใ“ใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚„็พ็Šถใ‚’ใใ‚Œใจ็ต„ใฟๅˆใ‚ใ› ใฆ่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ใจใƒปใƒปใƒปใ€
If you consider that with what's been happening to Karin and her current condition... (?)
ใ€Œใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‚ใใพใงๅƒ•ใฎไปฎ่ชฌใ ใ‘ใฉใ€
This is sticking strictly to my hypothesis though
Superb!

Just to nitpick, "is a necessary nutrient" > "is like a necessary nutrient ".
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That Japanese family names have meanings is mostly a myth. Most don't have a meaning that makes any sense. Each kanji used in a name, however, has a meaning.

็ฅžๅดŽ is usually pronounced ใ‹ใ‚“ใ–ใ and there may be families where it's pronounced ใ‹ใฟใ•ใ or ใ‹ใฟใ–ใ.

้‡‘ๅดŽ is pronounced ใ‹ใญใ•ใ or ใ‹ใญใ–ใ.

Now meanings:
็ฅž = God
ๅดŽ = a steep mountain path
้‡‘ = gold, money

This should explain my own first sentence above.
can ้‡‘ๅดŽ be pronounced as kanazaki too?
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can ้‡‘ๅดŽ be pronounced as kanazaki too?
Yes, it can.
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Superb!

Just to nitpick, "is a necessary nutrient" > "is like a necessary nutrient ".
Yay! I'm stoked to hear that

On more thing; The protagonist guy (Yuusei) takes to a friend (Manaka). Manaka doubts Yuusei's story but considers it hypothetically since he sees who upset Yuusei is over the fate of his daughter. Manaka comes to a plausible conclusion and Yuusei thanks him;
Yuusei;ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚ŠใŒใจใช็œŸไปฒใƒปใƒปใƒปใ€€ใ‚„ใฃใจใฏใฃใใ‚Šๅˆ†ใ‹ใฃใ Ÿใ‚ˆใ€
Thank you Manaka... I finally understand it clearly

Manaka;ใ€Œใกใ‚‡ใฃๆฅๆ –ๅ›๏ผไปŠใฎใฏๅ…จ้ƒจไปฎ่ชฌใ ใฃใฆใ€
Hold on a sec Kurusu-kun! Everything I said just now was hypothetical!
ใ€Œ้‹ใ‚’ๅธใ„ๅ–ใ‚‹่ฉฑใ ใฃใฆๆฅๆ –ๅ›่‡ช่บซใฏใฃใใ‚Šๅˆ†ใ‹ใฃใฆใ‚‹ ใ‚ใ‘ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ‚“ใ ใ‚๏ผŸใ€
That was just a story about absorbing luck-- you don't actually believe that explains what's going on (Ack, I'm really going rough here. D: I'm just guesslating for something that makes sense in this context)

ใ€Œใ‚‚ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใŸใ‚‰ใ‚‚ใฃใจ็พๅฎŸ็š„ใชๅŽŸๅ› ใŒใ‚ใฃใฆ่Šฑๅ‡›ใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ ใฎๆฒป็™‚ใ‚‚ๅฏ่ƒฝใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใ‚ˆ๏ผŸใ€
Maybe there's a more realistic cause and perhaps there's a medical treatment for Karin-chan?

I don't think I did the last two lines very well... Nit picking is greatly appreciated

Oh yeah, and what does ใƒ€ใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผ mean? E.g. ใ€Œใƒ€ใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผ่ปขใ‚“ใงใ‚„ใŒใ‚“ใฎใ€ (said by guys teasing their friend who fell down)ใ€€And ใ€Œๆ‰‹ใฎใฒใ‚‰ใ€€ๅ…จ้ƒจใง้•ทใ่งฆใฃใฆใŸใ‚‰ๆญปใฌไบ‹ๆ•…ใŒ่ตทใ“ใฃใฆ ใŸใ€๏ผŸ

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someone sent me some romaji - 02-02-2011, 03:43 AM

can someone translate this romaji for me?

honto
[12:14:21 AM] arigato
[12:14:50 AM] : kyou wa yasumidakara
[12:15:00 AM] : iede nonbirishitaitoomoimasu
[12:15:07 AM] : ttemou yoji handakara
[12:15:20 AM] : mousukoshide
[12:15:26 AM] : kyoumo owacchaukanjidane
[12:15:28 AM] : doushiyo
[12:15:35 AM] : ryan wa mousugu nenaitodakara
[12:15:41 AM] : mata tsumaranaku nacchiaudesho
[12:15:42 AM] : kore
[12:15:43 AM] : mou
[12:15:48 AM] : doushite
[12:15:51 AM] : kounandarou
[12:15:51 AM] : ne
[12:15:55 AM] : shikamo
[12:16:00 AM] : kono imi wakaranaidesho
[12:16:04 AM] : ne ryan


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