JapanForum.com  


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
(#1 (permalink))
Old
JBaymore (Offline)
JF Old Timer
 
Posts: 197
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Hampshire, USA
Question Need a Japanese word that I don't know and can't find. - 08-30-2011, 11:47 AM

I am taking a student group to Japan shortly. I speak very basic but "functional" Japanese.

One of the group has a food allergy to "bivalve shelfish". Not stuff like shrimp and lobster. Apparently not single shell types of shelfish either. Just stuff like clams........ most "bivalves".

I have taught her how to say that she has a food allergy to clams (and "kai" in general). But we need to extend that thought to ALL bivalves (but not inadvertantly to stuff like shrimp).

So a more general term like a generic "shellfish" might result in her not getting stuff like shrimp.... which she does eat and loves.

So can anyone here please tell me the correct Japanese term for only bivalve types of shelfish?

And would the average Japanese waiter or waitress actually recognize that "bivalve" term, or would only a marine biologist know it?

I'd appreciate any help you might give here. The life you save might appreciate it too <lol>.

best,

...................john
Reply With Quote
(#2 (permalink))
Old
masaegu's Avatar
masaegu (Offline)
永遠の愛
 
Posts: 2,573
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Central Tokyo
08-30-2011, 12:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JBaymore View Post
I am taking a student group to Japan shortly. I speak very basic but "functional" Japanese.

One of the group has a food allergy to "bivalve shelfish". Not stuff like shrimp and lobster. Apparently not single shell types of shelfish either. Just stuff like clams........ most "bivalves".

I have taught her how to say that she has a food allergy to clams (and "kai" in general). But we need to extend that thought to ALL bivalves (but not inadvertantly to stuff like shrimp).

So a more general term like a generic "shellfish" might result in her not getting stuff like shrimp.... which she does eat and loves.

So can anyone here please tell me the correct Japanese term for only bivalve types of shelfish?

And would the average Japanese waiter or waitress actually recognize that "bivalve" term, or would only a marine biologist know it?

I'd appreciate any help you might give here. The life you save might appreciate it too <lol>.

best,

...................john
The word is 二枚貝 (にまいがい) .

Anyone would know the word.


Your Japanese proficiency shall be in direct proportion
to your true interest in the Japanese Mind.
Reply With Quote
(#3 (permalink))
Old
KyleGoetz's Avatar
KyleGoetz (Offline)
Attorney at Flaw
 
Posts: 2,965
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
08-30-2011, 12:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by masaegu View Post
The word is 二枚貝 (にまいがい) .

Anyone would know the word.
You Japanese people really know your seafood taxonomy! I sure don't know what "bivalve shellfish" is in English!
Reply With Quote
(#4 (permalink))
Old
Columbine's Avatar
Columbine (Offline)
Busier Than Shinjuku Station
 
Posts: 1,466
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: United Kingdom
08-30-2011, 12:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by KyleGoetz View Post
You Japanese people really know your seafood taxonomy! I sure don't know what "bivalve shellfish" is in English!
Bivalve meaning two shells on a hinge. XD like clams have a 'top' shell and a 'bottom' shell but say like whelks have one shell.
Reply With Quote
(#5 (permalink))
Old
masaegu's Avatar
masaegu (Offline)
永遠の愛
 
Posts: 2,573
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Central Tokyo
08-30-2011, 12:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by KyleGoetz View Post
You Japanese people really know your seafood taxonomy! I sure don't know what "bivalve shellfish" is in English!
You learn it at your mother’s knee, my guy! (No pun intended.)


Your Japanese proficiency shall be in direct proportion
to your true interest in the Japanese Mind.
Reply With Quote
(#6 (permalink))
Old
KyleGoetz's Avatar
KyleGoetz (Offline)
Attorney at Flaw
 
Posts: 2,965
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
08-30-2011, 12:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Columbine View Post
Bivalve meaning two shells on a hinge. XD like clams have a 'top' shell and a 'bottom' shell but say like whelks have one shell.
See, when I hear the "valve" part, I start wondering about internal organ structure, not about the shells! I don't eat shellfish of any type...
Reply With Quote
(#7 (permalink))
Old
KyleGoetz's Avatar
KyleGoetz (Offline)
Attorney at Flaw
 
Posts: 2,965
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Texas
08-30-2011, 12:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by masaegu View Post
You learn it at your mother’s knee, my guy! (No pun intended.)
さむい!

related note for the learners and light-hearted amongst us: http://www.planetransfer.com/natsumi/oyajigag/
Reply With Quote
(#8 (permalink))
Old
masaegu's Avatar
masaegu (Offline)
永遠の愛
 
Posts: 2,573
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Central Tokyo
08-30-2011, 01:25 PM

My award-winning pun-making skills aside, I would feel somewhat safer if your student brought a list of phrases to show at restaurants because Japanese are simply not used to talking about seafood allergies and the waiters/chefs might not take them too seriously.

I will be happy to lend a knee if you feel the same way.


Your Japanese proficiency shall be in direct proportion
to your true interest in the Japanese Mind.
Reply With Quote
(#9 (permalink))
Old
JBaymore (Offline)
JF Old Timer
 
Posts: 197
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Hampshire, USA
08-30-2011, 01:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by masaegu View Post
The word is 二枚貝 (にまいがい) .

Anyone would know the word.
どもありがとございますよ。

I REALLY appreciate the very fast response.

best,

..............john
Reply With Quote
(#10 (permalink))
Old
JBaymore (Offline)
JF Old Timer
 
Posts: 197
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Hampshire, USA
08-30-2011, 01:31 PM

Oh, and yes, she will have it in writing too. I was planning on that.

Various forms of seafood are insideous in Japan....... things sneak into food dishes that sometimes you don't exxpect to be in there .

best,

...............john
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright 2003-2006 Virtual Japan.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6