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Question The Many Japanese Words for 'And' - 09-21-2011, 11:47 PM

I'm pushing forward to sitting level N4 in the JLPT, yet I have an embarrassing secret... I still haven't quite grasped which word for 'and' to use, and when.

My ex-tutor gave me the words for 'and', and briefly explained a situation to use each, but I never quite fully understood. The ones I can remember on the top of my head are:

と - I heard this was the general word for 'and'. He also said something about と or も being used depending on if you're giving a list of things, or just one or two... but I don't know which he said was used for which. Would it be '___ と ___ と ___ と ___。' or '___ も ___ も ___ も ___。'?

も - He said this literally meant 'also', so I think this one is simple enough, but when he used it in examples it seemed to be in strange places, such as 'ナイフもフォオク', which would be 'knife also fork'. I know it's a sin to think in English when speaking Japanese, but does this make sense? Is it right?

し - I don't understand this one at all... I'll need help with this one ^^;

くて - I heard this one is used for adjectives such as 'おいしい', turning it to 'おいしくて ______'. Is this right? If so, what do you use for adjectives that don't end in 'いい'?

If there are any ones I've forgotten, please mention them.

Oh, also I just want to check I know these two words for 'but' properly too:

が - General word for 'but' that can be used in most cases, such as after です and います / あります.

でも - Is this only used at the beginning of a sentence, as a kind of 'add on'? Or is there certain places this should be used more than けど?

けど - I used this every time after だ and です and basically any sentence that I knew I was going to continue from without pause after the です etc.
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09-22-2011, 02:39 AM

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I'm pushing forward to sitting level N4 in the JLPT, yet I have an embarrassing secret... I still haven't quite grasped which word for 'and' to use, and when.

My ex-tutor gave me the words for 'and', and briefly explained a situation to use each, but I never quite fully understood. The ones I can remember on the top of my head are:

と - I heard this was the general word for 'and'. He also said something about と or も being used depending on if you're giving a list of things, or just one or two... but I don't know which he said was used for which. Would it be '___ と ___ と ___ と ___。' or '___ も ___ も ___ も ___。'?

も - He said this literally meant 'also', so I think this one is simple enough, but when he used it in examples it seemed to be in strange places, such as 'ナイフもフォオク', which would be 'knife also fork'. I know it's a sin to think in English when speaking Japanese, but does this make sense? Is it right?

し - I don't understand this one at all... I'll need help with this one ^^;

くて - I heard this one is used for adjectives such as 'おいしい', turning it to 'おいしくて ______'. Is this right? If so, what do you use for adjectives that don't end in 'いい'?

If there are any ones I've forgotten, please mention them.

Oh, also I just want to check I know these two words for 'but' properly too:

が - General word for 'but' that can be used in most cases, such as after です and います / あります.

でも - Is this only used at the beginning of a sentence, as a kind of 'add on'? Or is there certain places this should be used more than けど?

けど - I used this every time after だ and です and basically any sentence that I knew I was going to continue from without pause after the です etc.
Ok, if I remember this right.....

You use と to give an exhaustive list. As in  私のかばんの中に、ペンとノートとけいたいがありま す。 i have a pen, a notebook and a mobile in my bag and ~nothing else~.

も is a kind of also, yes.
A: ぺんがありますか?
B:はい、持ってきました。ノートもレコーダもありま 。
A: Do you have a pen?
B: yes, I bought one. I have a note pad and a recorder too.

The difference being that も sometimes replaces other particles, like が in the above sentence.

し is used for listing reasons.
先生:どうして先週の授業にきませんでした?
生徒:すみません、熱がありましたし、雨が多いし、宿 題を忘れしまいましたし、きませんでした。
Teacher: Why didn't you come to class last week?
Student: I'm sorry, I didn't come as I had a fever and it was raining a lot and I forgot my homework.

って/て is used for listing adjectives or linking sentences. It's not strictly an 'and'.

ア:このケーキは安くて、おいしいので、すきです!
I like this cake cause it's cheap and tasty!

A: 昨日、公園にいって、ベースボールした。
Yesterday, I went to the park 'n' played baseball. (technically this should be たり+する eg: 昨日、公園に行ったり、べーすぼーるしたり、あそぶし ました。yesterday I did stuff like go to the park, play baseball and mess around.)

There's a great book called All about Japanese particles I really really recommend. It's easy to use and it gives really clear explanations of how to use this language.
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09-22-2011, 04:25 AM

You forgot に

There's also 及び as well

Read/listen to a lot of Japanese and you'll get it eventually.

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There's also 及び as well
Nobody studying for the N4 needs to know 及び.
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