Grammer question 'o' vs 'de'

barnbum · (#1 (**permalink**))

Here are two sentences:

Enpitsu de kaitemo iidesuka?
No-to o karitemo ii desuka?

Q: Why does one use 'enpitsu de' as opposed to 'no-to o'? I'm not sure when to use 'de' and 'o' in these particular sentences. Can anyone explain the difference?

blutorange · (#2 (**permalink**))

There is quite a difference here:

Enpitsu de kaite ————— to write with a pen
Enpitsu wo kaite ————— to write a pen (???)

No-to wo karite ————— to borrow a notebookt
No-to de karite ————— to borrow with a notebook (???)

Have you studied / do you know the basic meaning of the particles を and で?

barnbum · (#3 (**permalink**))

Thank you very much for your reply! I finally understand why my text book used "de"!!! I have studied "o" and "de" before, but not this particular usage. Thank you!

Supperman · (#4 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by blutorange

Enpitsu de kaite ————— to write with a pen
Enpitsu wo kaite ————— to write a pen (???)

Enpitsu wo kaku--------to draw a pencil, to draw a picture of the pencil