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verbal suffix -(e)do - 05-23-2011, 05:58 PM

In Shiina Ringo's lyrics I've encountered the forms 弄れど (masaguredo, see here) and 愛せど (aisedo, see here), but I wasn't able to find these constructions in my grammar books.
My best guess is that they're contracted from masaguru kedo, ai suru kedo. Is that correct?
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05-23-2011, 06:28 PM

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In Shiina Ringo's lyrics I've encountered the forms 弄れど (masaguredo, see here) and 愛せど (aisedo, see here), but I wasn't able to find these constructions in my grammar books.
My best guess is that they're contracted from masaguru kedo, ai suru kedo. Is that correct?
No, that is not correct. It is not contracted from anything but it's surely related to けど.

This is the connective particle ど, which means "doing ~~ but --" , "even though you do ~~, ----", etc. Unlike けど, it is more often used in writing than in speaking.

ど is synonymous to 「けれども」、「~~が、しかし」、「~~ても」, etc.


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An example sentence - 05-24-2011, 08:19 AM

働けど働けど
我が暮らし楽にならざり
ぢっと手を見る

石川啄木

work after work
life never be well
I stare at my hands
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05-25-2011, 07:11 PM

I see, thanks. I wonder though why it's not in the 日本語文法辞典. (Or I might be just too stupid to find it.)
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05-26-2011, 03:28 AM

Hi.

I don't know about the book, but you might find it in Japanese dictionaries (国語辞典), for example, here;

ど[接助]の意味 - 国語辞書 - goo辞書
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