Martial Arts

[chaseme]

probably i didnt make my self clear.
i was in highschool i mention im not in any gang. so no "street fight".
most fights i got involve with are with peers or in the same circle.

with judo i could beat my opponent without leaving marks or bruises which means less to no sanction. since i didnt actually engage in a fight but still effectively defend myself.
with punching and kicking even if i tried to defend myself the fact that i engage in a fight doesnt change.

when i say 2vs1 im thinking of three people almost equal in physical activites and the 1 do martial arts. not 2nerds vs a pro boxer, i know i have a flaw in my argument here but being realistic what are the chances of 2 nerds picking a fight with Pacquiao.

[TalnSG]

Originally Posted by Tenchu

Oh, my original beef was with warm ups, really, that is why I got into stretching. I still dont like warm ups...

Now that is something I completely understand, not an excuse to avoid it, but I always hated it too. Its a matter of patience, at least in my case. It always felt like wasting time and I wanted to get on with the meat of the exercise. But with time, and the force of an injury that had to be surgically repaired, I learned the patience to endure and even appreciate warm-ups, expecially the stretching.

Since it was leg swing you were using for stretching, its possible that the swing itself could have been part of the problem with the hamstrings. I am just giving an educated guess here because luckily I have never had problems with that group of muscles, so far all my muscle injuries have been related to the shoulders. Though you didn't really describe the hamstring problem a sudden stretch versus a gradual, steady pull on the muscle is more prone to damage. Its the reason why in callesthenics they no longer teach you to bounce when doing toe-touches or other movements that stretch cold tissue. You could have been pushing the stretch to the edge of its limit by the momentum/inertia of the swing before the the actual stretch of the muscle had warmed the area with extra blood flow.

Just my thoughts if you want to try a slow stretch with the same, but contolled arc and see how it goes.

[godwine]

No no, i wasn't taking a stab at you for fighting at school, we were all once young and stupid

There could be countless possibilities where you can get in a situation to have to fight with 2 people, and I do like throwing techniques too. I teach quite a bit of it to my student as well, just that I am better with my striking technique for the most part

Now, better question, aside from Tenchu who was taught to "Unleash" and be the best in all situation, what would have cause enough conflict for 2 people coming at you at the same time? Outside of being robbed, why sould 2 people out of nowhere decide to pick a fight with you? Is it something that can be avoided in the first place?

[Tenchu]

Originally Posted by godwine

Ok thanks, that will explain the attitude and behavior...

I assure you I will not change over time, only become more refined and reserved, yet stll the same man... Out of personal interest, can you explain the personality you are seeing? I know I am ... aggressive, or blunt, or something. At Muay Thai this guy was in the Army, but he quit, pussy, anyway, someone mentioned shooting people, and he goes "Oh, I didn't want to shoot anybody or anything, thats why I was a driver" ... and me, being former Infantry before I got booted, I said "What is wrong with shooting people? You came here to punch people!" And I grinned... Everyone just looked at me like I was crazy and I was thinking what is wrong with shooting people? Do they think some people dont need to be shot or something? I dunno... I wont change, but.

Originally Posted by chaseme

but being realistic what are the chances of 2 nerds picking a fight with Pacquiao.

There are few people who actually will pick a fight. Most that do are bogans and often drink a lot, or football fagots who think they are tough, but arnt. In any case, it is usually one will start the fight, and the rest will be in reserve. If you flatten the first, who is prob the leader, biggest, and most out going and aggressive, I doubt the rest will fight when he is down. Piss head bogans are more likely to fight well given they are used to a hard and aggressive life, they are more likely to fight as a team. If you have skill it should be pretty easy to hit each one in the head. Honestly, when you have trained hardcore for a long time, for me, I see it funny when normal people want to fight. But for most people, yeah, 2 or 3 drunks will be a handful, try and take out the leader first...

Originally Posted by TalnSG

Now that is something I completely understand, not an excuse to avoid it, but I always hated it too. Its a matter of patience, at least in my case. It always felt like wasting time and I wanted to get on with the meat of the exercise. But with time, and the force of an injury that had to be surgically repaired, I learned the patience to endure and even appreciate warm-ups, expecially the stretching

Yeah, but the Army did a test and found that the recruits that did warm up were just as prone to injury as the ones that did not, it made no difference. I think just start off slow, and as your blood heats increase the pace and intensity. There is not need to roll around each joint and stretch out each muscle, it is a waste of time. Just pace it to begin with then go heavy only when ready.

Originally Posted by TalnSG

Since it was leg swing you were using for stretching, its possible that the swing itself could have been part of the problem with the hamstrings.

No, everyone who has done exstensive kicking will know this feeling. It is not a problem. And even if you stretch a lot to begin with, anyone who kick as high as they can like, 100 times in one session, they will feel tightness and discomfort in their ham strings the next day and not be able to kick high again for a couple of days. Kickng just below your height limit will not do this, but. That is what was wrong with my stretch, is every time I would go fully to the full height of my leg, this would over work them, and the next day it would be tight. It happens, but I try to avoid making it happen, like in doing that strecth, coz I like to train every day, not every second day.

Originally Posted by godwine

Now, better question, aside from Tenchu who was taught to "Unleash" and be the best in all situation, what would have cause enough conflict for 2 people coming at you at the same time? Outside of being robbed, why sould 2 people out of nowhere decide to pick a fight with you? Is it something that can be avoided in the first place?

Well, sometimes some guy reckons you were 'checking out his girl' and in the case where I probably was i say "wake up, she was looking at me first, idiot!" That will do it! Sometimes though, some people just dont like you and want to be tough. It happens more in school than in an adult world, but it does happen.

[Asakura]

Originally Posted by godwine

No no, i wasn't taking a stab at you for fighting at school, we were all once young and stupid

There could be countless possibilities where you can get in a situation to have to fight with 2 people, and I do like throwing techniques too. I teach quite a bit of it to my student as well, just that I am better with my striking technique for the most part

Now, better question, aside from Tenchu who was taught to "Unleash" and be the best in all situation, what would have cause enough conflict for 2 people coming at you at the same time? Outside of being robbed, why sould 2 people out of nowhere decide to pick a fight with you? Is it something that can be avoided in the first place?

I guess, theres all sorts of situations where you can get attacked by more than one guy. Gang abushes, someone that needs a boost.After a Tounament I had a couple of guys the wanted just to beat my ass so they could prove they could do it. I mean while it's not commonplace even in fights, it does happen outside of being robbed.

[godwine]

Originally Posted by Asakura

I guess, theres all sorts of situations where you can get attacked by more than one guy. Gang abushes, someone that needs a boost.After a Tounament I had a couple of guys the wanted just to beat my ass so they could prove they could do it. I mean while it's not commonplace even in fights, it does happen outside of being robbed.

Gang Ambushes, ok sure, what what have you done to trigger it? Like the example that Tenchu pointed out, that will definitely trigger something.

Avoiding (or running) a fight doesn't make you a wimp or "PUSSY".

Tenchu, I am not trying to insult you, don't get me wrong.... lets just leave it at that...

[Asakura]

Well in my area we have the Crips and the Bloods. If you go to the bloods territory wearing blue. You get jumped. Plain and simple. They don't ask questions. And Vice Versa. Now While I don't live in direct Gang territory and where I live in reality, it's just alot of hype stuff like that does happen.

[TalnSG]

Originally Posted by Asakura

Well in my area we have the Crips and the Bloods. If you go to the bloods territory wearing blue. You get jumped. Plain and simple. They don't ask questions. And Vice Versa. Now While I don't live in direct Gang territory and where I live in reality, it's just alot of hype stuff like that does happen.

Sorry that's "Crypts". And though they originated on the west coast of the U.S., they are not isolated there. You have the same mentality in the inner cities of most urban areas, whether its gangstas, gang bangers, skinheads or tongs, there are areas where common sense, not cowardice, should have you thinking twice about calling attention to yourself.

[Asakura]

True. sry I got the name wrong. But I don't know much about the gangbangers. You know thinking about it, I don't even know what I'm saying. Just ignorant I guess.

[Sutiiven]

I belive martial arts is a very good thing if properly practiced and very healthy for the mind and can sharpen it as well and the virtues can bring peaceful mind and good clear mind for judgement and other things