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07-15-2009, 11:01 PM

For me FFX was the last decent FF, I think both FFX-2 and FFXII sucks, I already saw some images from FFXIII, but it didn't make me expect much.
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07-15-2009, 11:09 PM

i haven't played dissidia yet the u.s doesn't get it until august


this pain is like a river of sadness
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07-15-2009, 11:51 PM

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Sounds like a rant.
Nah, it was. Had no... substance to it.


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07-16-2009, 01:13 AM

Bloody Hell, a new one?


The ugly and the stupid have the best of it in this world.
They can sit at their ease and gape at the play.


(Click, If You Dare)
http://www.freewebs.com/nevermore88/falloff.jpg/
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Bloody Hell, a new one?
They will never stop -_-


BTW, is this the new one with the black dude with the afro and the pistols? Or is that XIV?


You haven't dug your hole too deep until it's killed you
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07-16-2009, 08:47 PM

its the one with this girl named lightning


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07-16-2009, 08:56 PM

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its the one with this girl named lightning
Yep, the female version of Cloud.
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07-16-2009, 09:12 PM

I agree with lastfortnight that X was the last truly good one. X-2 was boring and XII was well boring and i found it difficult if you didnt train a lot in the beginning. but i am excited to pick up the vs. XIII edition
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07-16-2009, 09:21 PM

yea vs. looks good


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07-16-2009, 11:32 PM

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Nah, it was. Had no... substance to it.
I disagree. I surely wouldn't call the story bad as it made changes from the same old FF pattern of 'good guy has grudge against bad guy, grudge becomes ever more epic and boils down to a big massive 'save the world' scenario, during which the good guy finds true love with some woman he picked up along the way'. FF XII story went a different road, becoming more mature then any other FF series.

What I did like about the story and what I didn't find in other cliche'd FF's, is that the line between "Good" and "Evil" is blurred. That's what so intriguing and compelling about FFXII story compared to other FF's reeeeou clearly know who's the "truly evil" villain that's gonna destroy the world. Sure, many could argue that Vayne is the villain, but wasn't he just trying to suppress a rebellion from those who would dare to as a ruler should? And lets not forget he tried to liberate the humes from the rule of the Occuria.

The characters seem more cultured and refined than say FFVIII's. Vaan, while I'll admit he was underdeveloped, like Fran and Penelo, at least wasn't an emo like Squall. The story, on the whole makes sense, though the Occuria should've been expanded upon. That was a weak plot point (I never said the story was flawless) and the political aspect of FFXII is also one of the things I enjoyed about FFXII. Also there were plenty of subplots amongst the characters, like:
-Vaan, trying to become a sky pirate and come to terms with the death of his brother.
-Balthier, and his changing from apathetic pirate to heroic rebel. Also the conflict with his father takes centre stage.
-Fran, outcast from her people for venturing out into the world (not to mention the subtle romance between her and Balthier). Although, her story fades out far too soon.
-Ashe shouldn't really need explaining. You deal with her crap almost the entire time.
-Basch, as he seeks redemption through his duty to Dalmasca.

Just my 2 cents in this whole matter, as I feel you are overlooking FFXII's noteworthy merits and if you approach it with a traditional FF mentality, you will certainly not appreciate it.
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