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Harold 08-10-2007 08:28 AM

日本に住みたいんです・・・・
 
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sach 08-10-2007 08:51 AM

You won't have a problem using ur VISA card it works in here, dunno about your cell phone, it depends on what kind of cell phone you have. why don't you apply for a study permit so you can go to university in Japan? I think you need to research a little more before you come, there's a lot of information on Japanese immigration site.Good luck!

Hatredcopter 08-10-2007 10:25 AM

If you want to go to Japan at 18, you must attend a university.. you pretty much have no choice on this matter, because of visa issues. You need a working visa to live and work in Japan, but getting a working visa requires a bachelor's degree. The only other way to live in Japan prior to getting a degree is by attaining a student visa - hence enrolling at a Japanese university.

Here's where the problem comes up. You need to be fluent in Japanese to attend a Japanese university. However... there are a VERY small number of universities in Japan that conduct a good amount of their classes in English (Temple, Sophia, International). These universities would be your best bet, although tuition is quite expensive. I don't know if there's any other universities in the country that could suit someone who doesn't have an advanced grasp on Japanese (i.e., completely fluent and literate).

Like in the US (and pretty much everywhere else), many Japanese universities have dormitories.. so housing would be covered.

Harold 08-10-2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sach (Post 202692)
You won't have a problem using ur VISA card it works in here, dunno about your cell phone, it depends on what kind of cell phone you have. why don't you apply for a study permit so you can go to university in Japan? I think you need to research a little more before you come, there's a lot of information on Japanese immigration site.Good luck!

Do you think the best route would to be just get a cell phone there?
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Originally Posted by Hatredcopter (Post 202718)
If you want to go to Japan at 18, you must attend a university.. you pretty much have no choice on this matter, because of visa issues. You need a working visa to live and work in Japan, but getting a working visa requires a bachelor's degree. The only other way to live in Japan prior to getting a degree is by attaining a student visa - hence enrolling at a Japanese university.

Here's where the problem comes up. You need to be fluent in Japanese to attend a Japanese university. However... there are a VERY small number of universities in Japan that conduct a good amount of their classes in English (Temple, Sophia, International). These universities would be your best bet, although tuition is quite expensive. I don't know if there's any other universities in the country that could suit someone who doesn't have an advanced grasp on Japanese (i.e., completely fluent and literate).

Like in the US (and pretty much everywhere else), many Japanese universities have dormitories.. so housing would be covered.

Well, let's just say I'm fluent up to a JLPT level 2 test (which I think I'll have by next year, this time). What would you think my choices would be then?

MMM 08-11-2007 02:52 AM

The cell phone is the least of your worries (but yes). Japanese University exchange programs are designed for foreigns students (Waseda has one, too), but regular Universities are not designed for International students. It would almost be impossible to pass the entrance exams.

Start applying now...

Harold 08-11-2007 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 203619)
The cell phone is the least of your worries (but yes). Japanese University exchange programs are designed for foreigns students (Waseda has one, too), but regular Universities are not designed for International students. It would almost be impossible to pass the entrance exams.

Start applying now...

I think Waseda is EXACTLY what I'm looking for (a prestigious, private university known for its role politics).

But, from their website, it shows the following:
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Please note that all the information provided on this website is only in Japanese with the understanding that your Japanese is proficient enough to take undergraduate schools entrance exams in Japanse.

If you would like to get more information on admission, please click here (in Japanese).

In order to apply to undergraduate schools at Waseda University as an international student, an applicant must have completed a total of 12 years of primary and secondary education abroad and taken the EJU (Examination for Japanese University Admission for International Students: http://www.jasso.go.jp/examination/efjuafis_e.html) provided only in Japanese.

Please note that the School of International Liberal Studies (SILS) is the only undergraduate school which conducts entrance examinations and classes in English.

The admission information for SILS may be obtained from the following website: School of International Liberal Studies, Waseda University
All other undergraduate schools, entrance examinations and classes are given only in Japanese
Soo.. that means I have to be fluent enough to read their site (I only have a problem with the Kanji on the site along with some grammar rules that I haven't quite come across yet in my studying) and take the EJU..

Does anyone know about the EJU.. (If I want to get into the main university) This is the first time hearing about it.

Are you talking about the SILS thing at Waseda?

Thanks A BUNCH for the replies :o

samokan 08-11-2007 05:23 AM

another way is to get a scholarship. Get a Monbukagasho scholarship. Although not all country can take, maybe you better enquire at Japanese embassy in your place if its available.

its better to apply as an undergrad, that way you get to study Japanese first before proceeding to your respective university.

Harold 08-11-2007 05:40 AM

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MMM 08-11-2007 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Harold (Post 203680)
I think Waseda is EXACTLY what I'm looking for (a prestigious, private university known for its role politics).

But, from their website, it shows the following:


Soo.. that means I have to be fluent enough to read their site (I only have a problem with the Kanji on the site along with some grammar rules that I haven't quite come across yet in my studying) and take the EJU..

Does anyone know about the EJU.. (If I want to get into the main university) This is the first time hearing about it.

Are you talking about the SILS thing at Waseda?

Thanks A BUNCH for the replies :o


I know they had an exchange program at the University of Oregon, but I didn't think it was exclusive. You didn't have to take the tests in Japanese from U of Oregon. I wish I knew more to tell you...

Harold 08-11-2007 06:03 AM

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samokan 08-11-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Harold (Post 203697)
Yea.. that's what I was thinking. Is the consulate the same thing as the embassy, sort of?

I found this about the Monbukagasho (MEXT) scholarship... this is it, right?
Consulate-General of Japan in Houston

yeah, check those out. :ywave:

MMM 08-11-2007 02:58 PM

1) I don't think the U of O program is exclusive

2) A consulate is a branch of an embassy, and for our purposes is pretty much the same thing.

Harold 08-11-2007 10:49 PM

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jasonbvr 08-12-2007 08:01 AM

There is also a separate language proficiency test for entry into Japanese universities.

Harold 08-12-2007 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jasonbvr (Post 204417)
There is also a separate language proficiency test for entry into Japanese universities.

What do you mean? I can take an English proficiency test and get into a Japanese university.. :confused:

jasonbvr 08-15-2007 12:31 AM

No, the Japanese language proficiency test. There is the standard JLPT, and then there is this EJU-JASSO.

Harold 08-17-2007 03:11 AM

Ah, well that test looks relatively new.. Does anyone have any sort of suggestion for reviewing for the EJU, then? I've googled it and nothing seems to come up. :/

cocoluvnihon 08-17-2007 05:50 AM

there's also APU pacific which is in Beepu in a small town where you have the hospitality of japanese people, but can still have fun with fellow foriegners that attend this university Ritsumeikan Asia Pacific University - Your Future in Mind)

Harold 08-17-2007 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cocoluvnihon (Post 209478)
there's also APU pacific which is in Beepu in a small town where you have the hospitality of japanese people, but can still have fun with fellow foriegners that attend this university Ritsumeikan Asia Pacific University - Your Future in Mind)

Wow.. Beppu looks far away from a lot of other stuff. I was intending on going to a town with an exceptional size like Osaka, Kyoto, Nagoya, or Sapporo. :rolleyes:

SaginumaEki 08-17-2007 11:28 PM

Question: Have you been to Japan before?


I know it may seem silly, but you don't really know what a place is like until you're there. What if you don't end up liking it? ANd I'm sure you're saying in your mind "of course I like it!" but there's no substitute for trying it out.

Another thing, are you planning on being a politician IN Japan? Because the problem with going to a foreign university is that you learn the terms in another langauge instead of English (if you're planning on coming back to the states).

In all seriousness, I think you should go to college in the states, go to Jpaan for a year, and if you like it go back. It'll be so much easier to go to Japan with a bachelor's degree. And once you're there working, you can perfect your Japanese and go to graduate school.

These are just my thoughts.

Harold 08-18-2007 05:05 AM

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SaginumaEki 08-18-2007 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Harold (Post 210198)
Thanks for replying. Your reply is very appreciated. :rolleyes:
But, I'm trying to aim to go next summer.

I don't want to be a politician to be a politician in Japan. I want to be a politician on an international level (as mentioned before ;)), though being one in Japan might be one of the first steps towards such an action.

I'm planning to make a living there, and to not return to the US except for holidays and the like.

In most countries you have to be part of the political scene within the country before being promoted by your political party to the international level. By an international level politician do you mean high executive branch and/or ambassador? When I went to the Japanese parliament this summer, they said there was only one gaijin in the whole assembly. Some guy from Finland. I forget what district he represented. I know it's not impossible, but it just seems that a gaijin would be elected. As for an ambassador, they almost always live in the country in which the government appoints them to. So if you're a Japanese ambassador, you'd probably not live in Japan and live in whatever country you reside in. Unless I'm missing the point of what an international politician is...

I just understand why you wouldn't want to go and see it first before deciding to move. You could always just try and do a year abroad your senior year, and apply to college while studying a Japanese highschool. I just think that's a more rational approach rather than deciding to live somewhere you haven't been. At least then you'd be there for a year before deciding to stay the rest of your life.

May I ask exactly why you want to move to Japan?

Harold 08-19-2007 05:22 AM

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Orcrist 08-28-2007 09:21 AM

If you really see yourself ending up in politics you are gonna have a hard time realising that in japan. To be part of Japanese politics you need citizenship. To get citizenship you need to live in Japan for atleast 5 years (without interruptions, correct me if Im wrong on this one tho). Even after aquiring citizenship you need to enter a political party in Japan, ofcourse this won't be easy. Now if all goes well, and you actually entered Japanese politics it will take a lifetime before you get a fancy position where you can actually make a difference on an international level.
So I'd say you will have to make a choice, either living in Japan or becoming an international politician. And as some people already posted, don't just go to Japan thinking you can easily last a whole year or longer there out of the blue. Do the exchange student thingy (im sure you can participate in many of the programs if you are really dedicated) for a semester of some sorts and see if you still like Japan as much.

Harold 09-03-2007 05:45 AM

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Nanuq 09-04-2007 12:11 AM

To be a politician in a foreign country is always very very difficult. Of course you will need a citizenship in every country you want to be a politician and you will have to know the politic structure of the country perfectly. Then I think it is necessary that you are politically active from the youth.

After that here in Germany for example there are very conservative parties where a foreign national would never have a chance to be a politician. And there are other parties where you could have a chance, but also there it's not too easy.

And I think Japan is a little bit more conservative in all the aspects of politics than the USA and Germany.

So I recommend to be interested in politics in your daily life and perhaps to be active in the political life in your country. Here in Germany the parties have also groups for younger active people. Perhaps in other countries the parties also have such groups.

Harold 09-20-2007 05:21 AM

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