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02-02-2011, 09:15 PM

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This list is aimed at people living with Japanese women, not dating. I wouldn't expect anyone to have ALL of these problems. 2% seems reasonable.

Like I said, these are common issues friends and I have had over the years with various Japanese women. And I think for the most part these are issues unique to Japan

Anyway, if you don't have any problems, then good for you.

BTW... I like the guy who made the "American girl problem..." thread in spite of what I posted here. When I was 17 years old in the 90s I would have done the same thing because I wouldn't want to hear bad things about my socialist stagnated love affair known as Japan.
That's the thing.. they're not unique to Japan. Most of it is just the same boring old stereotype about wives and girlfriends that you hear all the time but given a Japanese twist.

My list shows that.

You should realise all I had to do was change "Japanese" to "American" for half of them. I did very little editing. Just copy and pasted your list and tweaked it here and there and it made surprising sense (as it was very similar to the usual stereotypes about women).

Furthermore I've lived in Japan and have dated Japanese women before. Sure there were disagreements and conflicts here and there and I'm not with any of them anymore, but I've had no more problems with them than any other relationship I've had. And my opinion is similar to what other guys like RealJames, GoNative, RickOShay and Belyvis are saying so it sounds like you either got unlucky with some bad apples or the problem is you.

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02-02-2011, 10:45 PM

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True in America as well.


Did you get in a time machine from 1986? A 25 year old women today would not even be familiar with the term "Christmas Cake".

I am not going to go one by one... I think I made my point.
You make good points, but I have to stop you here. The stigma that women over 25 are too old still exists even though the younger generations knows its not true anymore. I have had this talk many times with VARIOUS girlfriends parents and its the PARENTS who pressure the girls to hurry up and get married.

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True in America as well.

Japanese men want women who can raise the children and maintain the home and expenses. Do you really think Japanese men lament how smart their wives are? Really.
Thats part of the point Im making. Japanese men want a house wife that just takes care of the children and doesn't try to learn a skill and work. They all go to college just to end up staying at home.

And you cant tell me Japanese women are not childish? Ive met 50 year old married women, who I think have the attitude of a 14 year old.
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02-02-2011, 11:36 PM

Also I suggest reading a book called "Dogs and Demons" by Alex Kerr. I believe there was a Japanese national statistic in there about a large percentage of women ranging from 18-35 years old not working. The more likely ones to work were the ladies who went to elite universities, because it was the only way to put them at the same level as the working man.

So I say again, you can't make this comparison to women rights in the USA in 2011. Didn't we just have a women sue Toshiba America (president is Japanese of American branch) because there are no ladies in high positions?"

This would never happen in Japan, because even though it's a written law, there is no one in place to enforce it.

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Thats part of the point Im making. Japanese men want a house wife that just takes care of the children and doesn't try to learn a skill and work. They all go to college just to end up staying at home.

And you cant tell me Japanese women are not childish? Ive met 50 year old married women, who I think have the attitude of a 14 year old.
The issue of gender equality in Japan has nothing to do with your stupid generalizations.

For a start being smart and staying at home with the kids are not mutually exclusive things as it is possible to do both you know.

Also Japanese women are, on average more educated than their American counterparts if I remember correctly.

To say that Japanese women are childish and stupid because their husbands just want someone to cook and clean for them is just illogical reasoning at best. While the latter may (or may not) be true to an extent.. to assume the former as a result is just stupid.

By the way.. American women are SOOO mature.

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I know this isn't representative of every woman in America. But don't try and pretend that Americans are superior in any way to Japanese people.

You can see this sort of behaviour emulated in the nightclubs and bars in most of the major cities in the states on a weekend (I've been to the US.. though if it makes you feel any better the same is true with cities in New Zealand too.) so don't try and pass the people in Jersey shore off as a rarity.

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02-03-2011, 12:46 AM

I read over the list with my girlfriend for a laugh.
Most of them are so far off I never even heard of anyone having a problem like that, a few of them are dead on for her but they also happen to be dead on for some of my exs back at home lol.

I will agree with one cultural observation you made though, but disagree with the rest.
And that is that women don't advance in the workforce well in Japan, and while that is also true in western cultures, it is much more so in Japan.

You are right that a woman wouldn't sue a company in Japan for having no female execs, but the reason isn't that no one is there to do it. It's because, like you said before, "No one's protesting this. With all the problems, the women are content with the way life is."


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You make good points, but I have to stop you here. The stigma that women over 25 are too old still exists even though the younger generations knows its not true anymore. I have had this talk many times with VARIOUS girlfriends parents and its the PARENTS who pressure the girls to hurry up and get married.
All parents want their children to get married. That doesn't mean the outdated notion that a woman over the age of 25 is not marrying material.

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Thats part of the point Im making. Japanese men want a house wife that just takes care of the children and doesn't try to learn a skill and work. They all go to college just to end up staying at home.

And you cant tell me Japanese women are not childish? Ive met 50 year old married women, who I think have the attitude of a 14 year old.
That's not what I said.

I don't know what you mean by "childish". I know women that like Sanrio and other kawaii things, but I like to play Mario games, so I am I childish, too?

In terms of attitude, I don't really see it. What is the attitude of a 14 year old?
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02-03-2011, 01:54 AM

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All parents want their children to get married. That doesn't mean the outdated notion that a woman over the age of 25 is not marrying material.

That's pretty interesting data, is it just for America or .. ?

If it's just American then I think it's safe to say the same thing has been happening in Japan, and to me it feels like it's even more so. I meet so many people getting married in their 30s but so few in their mid or late 20s.


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02-03-2011, 02:03 AM

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That's pretty interesting data, is it just for America or .. ?

If it's just American then I think it's safe to say the same thing has been happening in Japan, and to me it feels like it's even more so. I meet so many people getting married in their 30s but so few in their mid or late 20s.
Sorry I wasn't clear, I thought the source would be enough. This is ONLY Japan.
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