Newbs and Their Threads
 

Not really sure if anyone else really finds this as cumbersome or bothersome as I do... but it does rack a little on my nerve each time a beginning user chooses to introduce himself or ask for help by creating their own threads instead of searching for already existing ones.

I propose that this forum set a rule that requires a certain number of posts before a user is allowed to start his or her own thread.
Might make everything a lot easier on mods, discourage unnecessary clutter, and piss off less people >.>''

Anyway, that's just my two cents...
I'll be getting back to flaming all those newbs who are decidedly too lazy to give the forum a proper search before spamming the forums with their needless and redundant threads.

I've seen that done on other threads before.
Honestly, it works much better and cuts down on duplicate posts.

I think we've talked about this before, but mods don't have the power to do that at the moment, on the admin can.

JF needs this:

vb 3.6.x version: Cyb - Check If Already Posted - vBulletin.org Forum

vb 3.7.x version: Cyb - Check If Already Posted - vBulletin.org Forum

It's a great forum modification. I've seen it and used it and it works really good.

Sombody tell the admin.

There already an Etiquette and Rulz thread..

the idea isn't to make another thread
but to create a rule >.>'

New members don't always read it though...

So why they would read a Rules Thread if they already dont read the Etiquettes and Rules thread ?lool

Don't always? I'd say never read the rules.

But seriously, JF REALLY needs an update. And what really annoys me, is that we have 3 admins and neither of them cares about this place anymore.

:/ That's not something we can do anything about.
Unless we could somehow ask them to make a new Admin?

Doesn't an update cost $$$? If I remember well, and I've worked with vBulletin a lot, this should be vBulletin 3.6.8 PL2... the last stable version of 3.6.x series.

If the admin updates to 3.7.x we would have social profiles ;p...

I don't remember if the update costs or not.

I've done some checking in those links you posted in the your previous post. From I've found there, updates DO cost. It cost 30$/year for all the updates and support.
Also I found this in vBulletin forum:




Dammit! That means those bugs will never get fixed here.

Why in the hell do we have the Site Suggestions forum here if nobody gonna lift a finger in making this place better.

3 admins?

when did that happen? last i heard it was only Eki...

but besides that, who do you think pays for the forum; we should just be thankful that he/she/deity does at all :rheart: *worships*

anyway, in regards to the nubs; best to ignore the new threads (is easier for us mods to delete them) and let us directs them to the rules; if you must say something just a friendly welcome and a link to the rules/ etiquette is enough to help :vsign:

You didn't know that?
Shinjuku is the only who still shows up (can't say the same thing about the other two), that's why he's the only admin known to everyone.

I'm guessing that they just bought the vBulletin licence, so I don't think they're still paying for the furom.

Unless they have a home server or anything else, they could be paying for a dedicated server online. Or they might have set to automatically be paid to ease the hassle.

I'm not sure if they really come here... it's only mods that I see. They're not really meant to come here but hey, once in a time to upgrade or add something new, that's what everyone would like.

you people are rude! newbs can post wat they want! there are no rules! i HATE people like you! wonder why theres only 2 pages of this crap!

Hey, dummy, there ARE rules here! some people waste our time and forum space with their insignificant threads. don't start a new thread for the first thing that pops into your head. there's most likely already a thread somewhere for it anyway. instead of creating new ones, try looking at the ones already there.

This is so cool.

Internet High Five.

heck yeah:D

I'm new here but I'm not much for making threads in all, I just read what's already posted and if I feel like it I'll post to that, but there is a lot of eh...crappie threads that I'm not even sure of what I'm reading or if there is a point. I suppose this goes off topic but where are the "older people" It seems most of the threads are occupied by minors?

It's hard to find a thread or series of threads that include only those 19 and over. There's a few started, and a few that make up the thread, but generally, the minors are everwhere.

Moral: Learn to skim a thread.

Good point.

no its not rude, and no ppl cant post everything under the sun, if that was allowed JF would have crashed and burned into the probevial(sp?) shit hole its slowly going to, although the mods have been doing a good job so that may not happen unless they pull another disapearance >_>

yeah, i hate when people complain about his kind of thing, when they cant do whatever they want. i have to deal with ms. ignorant all the time. she's my actual sister. i try to tell her, but she doesn't seem to understand my point. she just gets mad at me for trying to correct her.

well then i didnt mean it like that.
yes there is people who post crazy things. i know, its just i started a threa "break up revenge" and only read like 2 post.
i was only ticked though.
but now i think about it,they should make a rule to make threads after a certain amout of post..........i guess........
:bigears:

i was thinking that as well.

well, really though,what are some of these "dumb post" i really havent seen any.(besides my mean sister. lol) some examples please?

:happypika:

YOU'RE THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE! SHUT YOUR FACE! I AM NOT MEAN!!!!!
*sigh* sisters for ya.

The reason I so rarely post unless I feel my postings will actually reach some individuals I cannot reach through other forums (mostly gaijinpot) is because this forum does not, in my opinion, have stringent enough rules, and as previously stated, does not have enough admin/mod control.

Before we blame everything on new individuals, or even minors in general, we should look at some of the rather painful choices that are regularly made. Colored text, overly large text, horrid grammar (in either language!), ridiculously sized banners, repetitive and immature topics... The list could go longer.

This forum seems to me to be less about Japan, and more about Japanese-influenced culture of western youth. Which frankly, given a name like JapanForum, I think is false advertising. It should probably be called.. er... well, something else. J-influenceForum.com maybe! When I initially signed up it was because I was preparing to make a move to Japan and wanted some last minute questions answered. There were individuals who definitely provided some good answers, but they were by far the extreme minority. I thank the JET alums and do not really include them in my general opinion of these forums. I hope they realise this.

I have just re-contracted for my second year here with little plan to leave. I think I could be a genuine resource to those who really, honestly wish to move to Japan and have a plan to do so. Yet I have found it hard to deal with individuals who I move to help who turn out to be far too young to have any realistic plans or goals that include moving to Japan.

Then there are outright ridiculous threads which are comprised mostly of minors that just drive me absolutely mad. A large reason I am a lurker as opposed to a poster can be traced to the adoption thread that took place roughly a year ago. Perhaps because when I was a teenager we had compuserv and prodigy and usenet only is why I have such a hard time dealing with the notion that the individuals I speak to online could really be so childish- because they're really children, and the idea of children on the internet is still something I can't quite wrap my head around.

Seems like someone needs to stand up and start acting like an adult around here, and it just doesn't seem like enough people, regardless of actual age, are willing to do that.

been on this forum about same time as u and my post count is bad and i try to get on the forums alot although i rarely post unless i can add something to a thread could care less about post count

Very nice suggestion. It cuts the entire leg work in half and people will just hit 'quick reply' and say 'hi.'

Btw, am Patty and a newbie to the boards. :)

I agree that spamming is annoying, but not being able to start your own threads? What if your favorite J-Rock/Pop/whatever band doesn't have a thread and you want to make them one and you can't because you have 10 posts instead of 30? It would really suck if you couldn't.
And okay, let's say there will be a rule like this. Then the person with 10 posts will spam in others threads, just to get him-/herself to 30 posts. Is that any better?

Well let's see
 

I agree with everyone on here in the point that people should look first and i wont deny that i may be guilty of it at times myself. Also i whould like to add that people should have a somewhat open ability to post, if they do not read the rules then they should be told not to if they do not quit then the fault is on them. Most new people such as myself just have an urge to get a word in edge wise so instead of freaking out help support new people.

There isnt a simple answer to this.
AS has been said, the moment you set a min post count you get a wole load of idiots posting 'yahoo me too' on every thread they get to jsut to beat the min limit.... so the point would be lost.
Try finding some more mods from ppl you trust and spread the load.
get deleting and maybe make it clearer who are mods.
also a good idea is a link to the rules and faq in the sig of mods

It just occured to me on another board today, this same subject, and a mod was basically telling the guy to rtfr but I had alook and realized, on that forum, it was reasonably hard to find them.
Not so much it was impossible, and I know its no excuse, but you have to realize this is open to the public... you are going to get lazy ppl.
Ceteris paribus, the more ways for them to get quickly to the rules, the more likely, statistically [ :) ] they will.

One other thought occurs to me. Even if you never read the rules or faq, wouldnt a very small amount of common sense tell you most of the basic ideas anyway? Oh, wait a minute, I'm having unrealistic expectations again, hehe!

I am sorry for bad English... :o

If there is no opportunity of technical intervention for change of a situation - there is accessible - "creation" and "removal"("distance").
Whether I do not know admit(allow) ìî "moving".

Card that " first of all is necessary to create precise and clear structure by that and forums ".
With the help of this structure it is possible to find themes and discussions incorporated by one subjects. It is possible to delete / to move new themes (and posts in other themes) in existing - more easy to work moderators.

Main ïðîáëåììà - there is no precise system of subjects and not clearly how to conduct supervision.

It is necessary to lead(carry out) global cleaning, harvest(cleaning) by that.

And here it is not necessary all to dump on the admins and moders - they for hundred years will not have time(be in time). The participation all of you is required.

Question
 

I am ready to make the offer which probably partially will help to solve a problem.
But I need the answer to two questions.

1) The administration of a forum (administrators and moderators) agree to a changes in structure of a forum (almost without technical intervention)?
2) The constant members of a forum agree to help to administrators and moderators in the decision of a problem?