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tifa 03-21-2008 02:17 AM

why everyone at each other neck..why this why that..seem like a love argument..hehehe that my way at looking at it like this:D

" hunni why are u avoidin me?"

" why do u care!"

" but..i just wanted 2 know wy u keep acting so cold!"

" it has nothing 2 do with u!"

kinda like that:D

Excessum 03-21-2008 02:20 AM


Kiyuge 03-21-2008 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Joedirt (Post 432374)
Why is there so much octopus sex in japaneese porn cartoons?

Is this a appropriate thread o-o;;;

hentailover92 03-21-2008 02:37 AM

man there r kids on here man ruining my mind with this

kunitokotachi 03-21-2008 02:54 AM

Of all of the things in the world to think about... Maybe you should ask the hentai writers why. Maybe these guys are deprived of something thus they grow a very active imagination about this particular subject; by "deprived of something" I think you know what I mean. I made sure to sanitize my words.

Excessum 03-21-2008 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kunitokotachi (Post 432808)
Of all of the things in the world to think about... Maybe you should ask the hentai writers why. Maybe these guys are deprived of something thus they grow a very active imagination about this particular subject; by "deprived of something" I think you know what I mean. I made sure to sanitize my words.

So you are saying that it is unrelated to the attempts of evading censorship and the cultural heritage???

EveV 03-21-2008 02:58 AM

Not necessarily.
They're just kinky o.o
I love hentai. Like alot.
I don't even watch it to get off sometimes.
And I'm certainly not "deprived"

CoolNard 03-21-2008 03:49 AM

I knew the Japanese were unique in all aspects! :D Maybe it's just another way of going along the "we're one of a kind" route, in globalized industries. Rarely, you see American cartoons mimicking the same @#*%. I emphasize on the word "mimicking". The Japanese are great at innovation (not refering to anything in particular). They know how to get in front of the trends and win themselves the last laugh of the day.

I don't think you should pour so much reality into pornographic materials though. There are tons of awesome non-hentai , parabolical anime out there you can really take time off to enjoy and learn from, and delve deeper into Japanese culture proper. Porn isn't something non-idiots (again, not refering to anything in particular :mtongue:) should all be so concerned over.

P.S. it interests me as to how you guys know that much... :eek: Naughty naughty ^_^;

EveV 03-21-2008 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolNard (Post 432827)
Porn isn't something non-idiots (again, not refering to anything in particular :mtongue:) should all be so concerned over.

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Soo you're saying people who like porn alot are idiots? <<
Porn is just a another form of art. :/
yea some of it is tacky and done for the money but alot of porn , especially hentai, requires alot of work :/

I like porn alot. Not just to " get off" It's a fascinating thing. The human body is just like, beautiful.

CoolNard 03-21-2008 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by EveV (Post 432829)
Soo you're saying people who like porn alot are idiots? <<
Porn is just a another form of art. :/
yea some of it is tacky and done for the money but alot of porn , especially hentai, requires alot of work :/

I like porn alot. Not just to " get off" It's a fascinating thing. The human body is just like, beautiful.

Lol, no I did not say that. My point was that people shouldn't make such a fuss over porn, as it's evidently become so natural in society, and it's about the human body, which is also natural. Furthermore, it's but a small portion of what Japan stands for. But that doesn't mean I was implying that people are idiots to like it.

EveV 03-21-2008 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolNard (Post 432832)
Lol, no I did not say that. My point was that people shouldn't make such a fuss over porn, as it's evidently become so natural in society, and it's about the human body, which is also natural. Furthermore, it's but a small portion of what Japan stands for. But that doesn't mean I was implying that people are idiots to like it.

Ah okay. Then I completely agree. Buttt there's nothing wrong with those who don't like it. Just a difference of opinion.

ivi0nk3y 03-21-2008 06:17 AM

People trying to justify porn as an art form? LOL.
Stop trying to "circumvent" the fact that you get your Jollies from it.
Porn is a tool for "over sex" and it is like a drug. Too much of it and it takes over your mind, as is evident with some users in this place.
The fact that Tentacle porn exists is definitely as Excessum said, to bend the rules. Ultimately you bend the rules for money, not because it is some highly defined art form that you idealise.

Gerlandox 03-21-2008 11:52 AM

HEhehhe
Hey people Why be rude to each other.
I would like to know that fact to:D
Is it some unfulfiled desire of the makers or something like that
G.

DragonShade 03-21-2008 05:18 PM

I've been wondering for ages~
I never got an answer lol
Thats why I dont like hentai anime
But lots of hentai game have skip option which allows you to skip all these hardcore stuff

ILOVEJAPAN 03-24-2008 01:08 AM

I think the reason we have tentical rape is because of Urotsukidoji. It was the first work to use this as a method to represent penis's withought breaking Japanese laws. We can also credit "The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife."

Japanese women do find it offencive. The creators don't care as long as they think it's profitable. Things don't get banned just because people find it offencive.

There all the questions raised in this thread are answerd in two simple paragraphs. Please don't post if you don't have anything to contribute.

EveV 03-24-2008 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 432873)
People trying to justify porn as an art form? LOL.
Stop trying to "circumvent" the fact that you get your Jollies from it.
Porn is a tool for "over sex" and it is like a drug. Too much of it and it takes over your mind, as is evident with some users in this place.
The fact that Tentacle porn exists is definitely as Excessum said, to bend the rules. Ultimately you bend the rules for money, not because it is some highly defined art form that you idealise.

You obviously lack any sort of respect or knowledge of art.
Some people are mature enough to watch porn and see how beautiful sex is.
Rather then feel the need to whack off.
Sex is natural.

clairebear 03-24-2008 01:28 AM

In most porn, is sex portrayed in a beautiful way? I think I know the answer to that :rolleyes:

EveV 03-24-2008 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by clairebear (Post 435018)
In most porn, is sex portrayed in a beautiful way? I think I know the answer to that :rolleyes:

No. But that doesn't deny the fact that some porn is art.

ivi0nk3y 03-24-2008 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by EveV (Post 435016)
You obviously lack any sort of respect or knowledge of art.
Some people are mature enough to watch porn and see how beautiful sex is.
Rather then feel the need to whack off.
Sex is natural.

LOL GOSH. That amused me quite a bit.
I don't need respect for Porn whatsoever. If you are deluded/horney enough to call it art, that's your prerogative. However that is not the truth.
I know art when I see it.
Porn is not Art.
Also, you are in no position to teach me about Sex either.

EveV 03-24-2008 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 435093)
LOL GOSH. That amused me quite a bit.
I don't need respect of Porn whatsoever. If you are deluded/horney enough to call it art, that's your prerogative.
You are in no position to teach me anything about Sex either :rolleyes:
Lawl.

How does prospective make you horny or deluded?
Hardly, I'm mature enough to watch porn and not feel anything.
You don't have to respect porn or see it as an art but don't go off insulting people who do, that's just childish teasing.
Not everyone is you.
Lawl.

ivi0nk3y 03-24-2008 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EveV (Post 435095)
How does prospective make you horny or deluded?
Hardly, I'm mature enough to watch porn and not feel anything.
You don't have to respect porn or see it as an art but don't go off insulting people who do, that's just childish teasing.
Not everyone is you.
Lawl.

So then don't make it sound like your statement is an absolute truth.

"No. But that doesn't deny the fact that some porn is art."

If you want to tell me that not everyone is me, then you need to also respect the fact that not everyone is you. :)

EveV 03-24-2008 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 435097)
So then don't make it sound like your statement is an absolute truth.

"No. But that doesn't deny the fact that some porn is art."

If you want to tell me that not everyone is me, then you need to also respect the fact that not everyone is you. :)

Sorry, but you're really one to talk. You go into everything (can't speak for how you act elsewhere) with the iron fist of absolute undeniable truth every time you speak against something that conflicts with your personal morals.

ivi0nk3y 03-24-2008 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by EveV (Post 435098)
Sorry, but you're really one to talk. You go into everything (can't speak for how you act elsewhere) with the iron fist of absolute undeniable truth every time you speak against something that conflicts with your personal morals.

Indeed I do. Mostly because i've taken the whole picture into consideration before I make a judgement. If however you have some case for Porn being an Art form, which is how the majority of people view it (not as something to get cheap thrills off), then please let me know.

EveV 03-24-2008 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 435102)
Indeed I do. Mostly because i've taken the whole picture into consideration before I make a judgement. If however you have some case for Porn being an Art form, which is how the majority of people view it, then please let me know.

If you want pornographic art then vist deviantART: where ART meets application!

However if you do not have a perspective on porn ever being an art then to you it'll just be sex. Art is art, giving something with so little meaning, a deeper existence. With an artistic mind everything can be art.
And
I never said there was an majority of people who saw porn as an art. The worlds to shallow for that.

ivi0nk3y 03-24-2008 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EveV (Post 435105)
If you want pornographic art then vist deviantART: where ART meets application!

However if you do not have a perspective on porn ever being an art then to you it'll just be sex. Art is art, giving something with so little meaning, a deeper existence. With an artistic mind everything can be art.
And
I never said there was an majority of people who saw porn as an art. The worlds to shallow for that.

So I guess you would watch porn because you see it as a "beautifully deeper existence" of something crude.
If you want a deeper meaning to meaningless Sex, go love your boyfriend. Make love and share that meaning with him.
Watching porn and admiring it as an art form will achieve nothing. It is a tool to make money and it gets people addicted to it like a drug.
This is why the world IS shallow, because they can't grow past their base desires and needs since shit like porn and the media saturate the masses with Sex.

EveV 03-24-2008 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 435115)
So I guess you would watch porn because you see it as a "beautifully deeper existence" of something crude.
If you want a deeper meaning to meaningless Sex, go love your boyfriend. Make love and share that meaning with him.
Watching porn and admiring it as an art form will achieve nothing. It is a tool to make money and it gets people addicted to it like a drug.
This is why the world IS shallow, because they can't grow past their base desires and needs since shit like porn and the media saturate the masses with Sex.

Lol
I'm not saying sites like youporn are art sites.
For example, have you ever heard of suicide girls? if not look, them up. ( I don't want to get yelled at for linking it here )
I admire them a great deal. Because they slap play boy in the face.
A variety of girls are featured on that site. Small and big. Tall and short. Pink Hair black hair.
When I see these womens pictures, they give me a strength. They break a the stereotype that "uber hot" women have to be these big breasted blondes.
I look up to them and if I wasn't so shy ( I don't even feel comfortable in a skirt that goes above my knees. ) perhaps I would consider featuring myself on the site as well.
Yea there JUST pictures of naked women but giving them more meaning mentally settles a personal conflict within me, without any desire to touch them.


And people need some sort of addiction. Addiction is happiness. You need something that you just want to do really bad or that you really like to do.

kurezi 03-24-2008 07:18 AM

LOL @ people trying to define art

ivi0nk3y 03-24-2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EveV (Post 435126)
Lol
I'm not saying sites like youporn are art sites.
For example, have you ever heard of suicide girls? if not look, them up. ( I don't want to get yelled at for linking it here )
I admire them a great deal. Because they slap play boy in the face.
A variety of girls are featured on that site. Small and big. Tall and short. Pink Hair black hair.
When I see these womens pictures, they give me a strength. They break a the stereotype that "uber hot" women have to be these big breasted blondes.
I look up to them and if I wasn't so shy ( I don't even feel comfortable in a skirt that goes above my knees. ) perhaps I would consider featuring myself on the site as well.
Yea there JUST pictures of naked women but giving them more meaning mentally settles a personal conflict within me, without any desire to touch them.


And people need some sort of addiction. Addiction is happiness. You need something that you just want to do really bad or that you really like to do.

Trying to fight ideals that Play Boy creates, with its umpteen stereotypes and fads, by doing a similar thing is like dousing a tap with a cloth in the hopes that it'll stop leaking. Eventually the water keeps dripping.
If websites such as suicide girls exist, it might be to make a statement and it might even be considered art but what exactly are they doing in the long run?
The majority of People will still see "naked chicks" and in the end they will either get over the fad or just carry on viewing such material, which in turn with the millions who are addicted to porn, won't change a damn thing. Therefore nothing changes, it just remains the same in a different form. You'll just have a sort of different mind set created IF such ideas inspired by said websites actually take of. If they don't then Play Boy will always exist anyway.
If you want to stop an incessant leak, you turn it off at the source.
Saying that porn or whatever is an art form, doesn't change the fact that women are treated as objects in the West, more than anywhere else.
You just think you're not. Porn, in whatever shape or form is just another means to make y'all into mindless cattle who have no other care cept their own looks. It ultimately caters to the needs of horneyness.

ps. Wtf? Addiction is good? You think looking for your next fix of whatever and striving in pursuit of it like a blind idiot is somehow productive?
Well wow and lawl and tee hee.

Thunda 03-24-2008 05:26 PM

OK. STOP.

I love art.
I love porn.
I love you two.

EVERYONE IS HAPPY?

Slykaz1 03-24-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILOVEJAPAN (Post 434999)
I think the reason we have tentical rape is because of Urotsukidoji. It was the first work to use this as a method to represent penis's withought breaking Japanese laws. We can also credit "The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife."

Japanese women do find it offencive. The creators don't care as long as they think it's profitable. Things don't get banned just because people find it offencive.

There all the questions raised in this thread are answerd in two simple paragraphs. Please don't post if you don't have anything to contribute.

That makes sense.....since all "tentacle" pics I've seen don't get censored and penis penetration does....


P.S. How did tentacles in Hentai become a porn 101 debate?

anywayz either way you both see it.....one will say it's art and the other will say it's not. Now stop argueing before you get this thread closed too....

EveV 03-24-2008 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 435513)
Trying to fight ideals that Play Boy creates, with its umpteen stereotypes and fads, by doing a similar thing is like dousing a tap with a cloth in the hopes that it'll stop leaking. Eventually the water keeps dripping.
If websites such as suicide girls exist, it might be to make a statement and it might even be considered art but what exactly are they doing in the long run?
The majority of People will still see "naked chicks" and in the end they will either get over the fad or just carry on viewing such material, which in turn with the millions who are addicted to porn, won't change a damn thing. Therefore nothing changes, it just remains the same in a different form. You'll just have a sort of different mind set created IF such ideas inspired by said websites actually take of. If they don't then Play Boy will always exist anyway.
If you want to stop an incessant leak, you turn it off at the source.
Saying that porn or whatever is an art form, doesn't change the fact that women are treated as objects in the West, more than anywhere else.
You just think you're not. Porn, in whatever shape or form is just another means to make y'all into mindless cattle who have no other care cept their own looks. It ultimately caters to the needs of horneyness.

ps. Wtf? Addiction is good? You think looking for your next fix of whatever and striving in pursuit of it like a blind idiot is somehow productive?
Well wow and lawl and tee hee.

It doesn't matter what their doing in the long run I see it as something deeper. Like I said, you don't have to agree. Society is not corrupted or broken because of porn, porn in the least amount of our worries. What about humans killing humans? Starvation, lack of cleansed water, over populated areas. We need to fix THOSE leaks before we worry about what people are doing/watching behind closed doors. Being horny is a natural feeling and as long as it's not turning into rape then I don't see anything wrong with feeding your desire when your lonely. But, once again you don't have to agree.

Women here are given many rights they could not be cattle, if they wanted to. We're not oppressed or " pushed down" their just dumb enough to follow society's influence. In the long run we can be whoever we want. There are countries our there that tell women what to wear or they die. Where men have the right to pull you off the street and rape you and it's not the West.

I wasn't talking about bad addiction. Like drugs,internet,video games. I meant good things, like seeing your family or eating carrots. Things that you really can't get enough of.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunda (Post 435549)
OK. STOP.

I love art.
I love porn.
I love you two.

EVERYONE IS HAPPY?

Thunda calm down << I don't know about Ivon but I'm perfectly content and happy right now regardless of this conversation which isn't even arguing to me o.o

clairebear 03-24-2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 435513)
Saying that porn or whatever is an art form, doesn't change the fact that women are treated as objects in the West, more than anywhere else.


o_O Its about time a man said that...everytime I say to someone "women are treated as objects" I get called a feminist. :cool:

ivi0nk3y 03-24-2008 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EveV (Post 435572)
It doesn't matter what their doing in the long run I see it as something deeper. Like I said, you don't have to agree. Society is not corrupted or broken because of porn, porn in the least amount of our worries. What about humans killing humans? Starvation, lack of cleansed water, over populated areas. We need to fix THOSE leaks before we worry about what people are doing/watching behind closed doors. Being horny is a natural feeling and as long as it's not turning into rape then I don't see anything wrong with feeding your desire when your lonely. But, once again you don't have to agree.

Women here are given many rights they could not be cattle, if they wanted to. We're not oppressed or " pushed down" their just dumb enough to follow society's influence. In the long run we can be whoever we want. There are countries our there that tell women what to wear or they die. Where men have the right to pull you off the street and rape you and it's not the West.

I wasn't talking about bad addiction. Like drugs,internet,video games. I meant good things, like seeing your family or eating carrots. Things that you really can't get enough of.

Well to be honest with you, an addiction for anything can be bad. There should be a certain balance with everything. Even so, I understand what you're trying to say there.
As for porn being the least of our worries, you're right, there's much more shit out there to worry about. The fact is though that when you can't control yourself and you are indeed addicted to porn, then you're in trouble and you don't even know it.
People might watch it when they're lonely or whatever but then it turns into something they need to do all the time. There is a severe lack of will power these days.
I also think porn is one way to keep people blind to what goes on around them. I mean not even porn but everything to do with over selling using sex or saturating a persons senses with sexual content, designed to get them aroused and stop thinking with their heads. Stuff like this can stop a person achieving their potential.
Also, since when do people when they're addicted to something, give a crap enough anything else around them? Those homeless, starving and destitute people are on their own because we are so caught up in our own luxuries.
Luxuries we don't need to survive and which snatch resources away from people who need them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by clairebear (Post 435646)
o_O Its about time a man said that...everytime I say to someone "women are treated as objects" I get called a feminist. :cool:

Well Feminists are annoying to me but I stand by what I said. The fact is Feminism doesn't need to exist as EveV seems to acknowledge, since there are worse problems out there.
I think females do have a better go at life than they ever have but when women accept that it is fine to overly show your skin in public and keeping updated with certain fashions is a priority, you have become a slave to the Play Boys of this world already.

zeldalover 03-24-2008 07:09 PM

quite simple- they like sea-food, and, there are a great deal of things that can be accomplished with tenticals.

EveV 03-24-2008 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 435664)
Well to be honest with you, an addiction for anything can be bad. There should be a certain balance with everything. Even so, I understand what you're trying to say there.
As for porn being the least of our worries, you're right, there's much more shit out there to worry about. The fact is though that when you can't control yourself and you are indeed addicted to porn, then you're in trouble and you don't even know it.
People might watch it when they're lonely or whatever but then it turns into something they need to do all the time. There is a severe lack of will power these days.
I also think porn is one way to keep people blind to what goes on around them. I mean not even porn but everything to do with over selling using sex or saturating a persons senses with sexual content, designed to get them aroused and stop thinking with their heads. Stuff like this can stop a person achieving their potential.
Also, since when do people when they're addicted to something, give a crap enough anything else around them? Those homeless, starving and destitute people are on their own because we are so caught up in our own luxuries.
Luxuries we don't need to survive and which snatch resources away from people who need them.

You're right bad addiction can really effect ( affect? I need too pay attention in english class more x.x ) you. I mean I look at myself, I'm trying to gain weight so I can be healthier but I have a terrible sweet tooth. Which you think would help but it doesn't because when I'm trying to work out my muscles I'm having a candy crash. Sugar just drains me and although I'd have progress it's not exactly what I wanted to be at in this point in time.

It does seem like most modern places these days are being very grabby with their resources. The amount of luxury you have is determined by the society in which you live. We have ipods and big screen t.vs while to someone in a more poor society would call a new outfit for school a luxury. People just don't all run on the same line which is weird because we do all need the same things. But that's just the human race for you. Naturally selfish and I doubt we'll ever change but their are people who do try to make change and those are just the golden eggs of society.

Gaberdeen 03-24-2008 08:26 PM

To answer this unusually perverse question;

Male organs and phalluses are prohibited from being shown on television in Japan - ergo the only way to get round the ban is to create a substitute that infers the similarities of said phallus.

i.e. It's a makeshift cock and seeing as Monsters play some part in demonic gang rape - tentacles are a pretty natural substitution for phalluses.

A question posed to me by a good friend that still has me confused is this.

'Was Urotsukidoji a porn film first and a horror film second or vice versa'

I'm no closer to finding out the answer to this question after 10 years.

ILOVEJAPAN 03-24-2008 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaberdeen (Post 435803)

'Was Urotsukidoji a porn film first and a horror film second or vice versa'

I'm no closer to finding out the answer to this question after 10 years.

I see it more as horror. I can't reallt imagine many people getting off on something like that...but that's just me...

Gaberdeen 03-24-2008 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILOVEJAPAN (Post 435819)
I see it more as horror. I can't reallt imagine many people getting off on something like that...but that's just me...

You know, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but I actually know people who beat off to anime porn - I'm all for varied opinion on this - and it does count ;)


But yeah... some people REALLY do like it THAT much :eek:

forgotenmemory 04-06-2008 03:36 PM

Okay, eww! But, either way, tentacle is just so nasty. But yeah, it's prolly because they don't allow "things" to go in on Japanese T.V, but I've never seen it in any other kind of T.V, either.

MissMisa 04-06-2008 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clairebear (Post 435646)
o_O Its about time a man said that...everytime I say to someone "women are treated as objects" I get called a feminist. :cool:

Me too but I don't care about that :D

Porn is so pointless, cheap and nasty.


And eww have you seen 5 year olds walking around in playboy tshirts etc? WTF is with that? Why is a pornographic brand being aimed at 5 year olds?!


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