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Tenchu 11-22-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Koir (Post 784345)
Then why do you keep commenting on it?

Because I'm bored, of course.

And do you not think the beforementioned is disgusting?

Nyororin 11-22-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 784347)
Because I'm bored, of course.

And do you not think the beforementioned is disgusting?

I`m not the one being asked, but I`ll toss in my answer. Yaoi is one of those things that girls tend to like much much more than guys do. It`s not much different than a guy liking girl-on-girl porn. Same idea behind it.

Quailboy 11-22-2009 03:16 PM

Gotta say my favorite pairing is Matt and Mello from Death Note

Mainly because I thought Mello was a girl at first o.O

Tenchu 11-22-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 784349)
I`m not the one being asked, but I`ll toss in my answer. Yaoi is one of those things that girls tend to like much much more than guys do. It`s not much different than a guy liking girl-on-girl porn. Same idea behind it.

But it's not natural.

Quailboy 11-22-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 784351)
But it's not natural.

What's wrong with not being natural?

Tenchu 11-22-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Quailboy (Post 784352)
What's wrong with not being natural?

To profane and subvert billions of years of evolution... it just isn't cool. The dinosaurs did not give their lives for this shit, man.

Quailboy 11-22-2009 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 784353)
To profane and subvert billions of years of evolution... it just isn't cool. The dinosaurs did not give their lives for this shit, man.

We as humans are doing what humans do.

This is evolution, sex, drugs, STD's, all part of evolution.

Columbine 11-22-2009 05:35 PM

I'm amused that Tenchu is horrified by the idea of Draco and Harry getting jiggy but not Inu-yasha bumping uglies with his own brother. Or did you not notice that bit?

Eh, Nyororin is right- girls just like guy-on-guy for basically the same reason guys like girl-on-girl; it's entirely detached from issues of homosexuality so please don't start on the whole "but fags are gross and unnatural, ewww!' argument, because yaoi doesn't go anywhere near portraying realistic homosexual relationships and most of the fans are heterosexual women.

Think of it this way; if a woman watches heterosexual porn she is almost always implicitly forced to empathize with the female character. In yaoi, the viewer can empathize with either character as they wish. There's a reason a lot of yaoi male characters are feminized; it's not about obsessing over what real homosexuals do, it's about allowing women's mental attitudes towards sex to be flexible.

It's also emotional. Yaoi dudes express their feelings, or if they don't there's a big reason why. So in that respect it can be something of a female fantasy fulfillment; a man who connects emotionally with relationships and sex and shows it.

Amongst other reasons of course. Some girls just don't like seeing vag in their porn when they can have two helpings of man. Fair enough, I say, let them eat cake.

AzulieAngel 11-23-2009 02:06 AM

Lol …
 
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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 784374)
I'm amused that Tenchu is horrified by the idea of Draco and Harry getting jiggy but not Inu-yasha bumping uglies with his own brother. Or did you not notice that bit?

I agree that is funny! Tenchu Did you not notce that two pair I put are a pair of siblings? So you don't like the idea of two people not related having sex yet you have no problem with incest!?!:quesballoon:
InuYasha is the half brother of Sessmaru & Sasuke is Itachi's little brother, both of these cases are incest! Another exaple would be Fred + George Weasly or any other Weasly with another Weasly! And Yaoi is not unnatural Tenchu!:pinkbow:

futurebeast 11-23-2009 02:32 AM

Ugh....
 
Yaoi is gay, but I guess you all knew that.

Tenchu 11-23-2009 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 784374)
I'm amused that Tenchu is horrified by the idea of Draco and Harry getting jiggy but not Inu-yasha bumping uglies with his own brother. Or did you not notice that bit?

How much of a nerd do you think I am? I have no idea who those people are. You should be grateful I even recognized the term "yaoi".

AzulieAngel 11-23-2009 07:01 AM

Are you kidding me?!?
 
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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 784486)
How much of a nerd do you think I am? I have no idea who those people are. You should be grateful I even recognized the term "yaoi".

It doesn't matter if you are 'smart' or not(note I use this term loosely), I do belive that it don't matter if you are a nerd or not! And if you don't know who the are then either watch the anime or read the manga!:angryblob: Your ansering though you give everyone a chance to argue with you I would like to point out if you don't like the subject than you don't have to anser a post in this forum! I find that this website has some manga people will probably reconize. InuYasha is on www.onemanga.com ~You can read it on that website or you can find it on www.yootube.com and watch it in either english or japanese. Also the fact you could only reconize the term yaoi probably means your not all that smart witch in turn mean no your not a nerd because nerds are extremly smart. You could be a prep for all I know! :pinkbow:

Columbine 11-23-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 784486)
How much of a nerd do you think I am? I have no idea who those people are. You should be grateful I even recognized the term "yaoi".

Uh...I have no idea what Azulieangel's post was about, but surely even without knowing the characters you could tell that 'blahblah and his brother' implied incest. I could and I've never seen Inuyasha. It's not about being a nerd or not it's semantic logic.

EDIT: I'll hasten to add right here that I personally have no interest in incest-themed anything.

AzulieAngel 11-23-2009 11:03 AM

Heh, sorry?
 
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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 784521)
Uh...I have no idea what Azulieangel's post was about, but surely even without knowing the characters you could tell that 'blahblah and his brother' implied incest. I could and I've never seen Inuyasha. It's not about being a nerd or not it's semantic logic.

EDIT: I'll hasten to add right here that I personally have no interest in incest-themed anything.

I put two links in that post to some websites that have InuYasha on them(1 for the manga & anther for the anime) for Tenchu to go to.
I was also attempting to call Tenchu an idiot for only being able to reconize the word yaoi but not really doing any research to know exactly what the post's were about.
Tenchu do you like yuri? If so then why do you have a problem with yaoi? What I'm saying is that the two genre's aren't that different from each other! Hence if somebody calls one of them sick then aren't they the pot calling the kettle black? The only difference is is that the people in yuri are female while in yaoi they are male!
:pinkbow:

Columbine 11-23-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AzulieAngel (Post 784527)
I put two links in that post to some websites that have InuYasha on them(1 for the manga & anther for the anime) for Tenchu to go to.
I was also attempting to call Tenchu an idiot for only being able to reconize the word yaoi but not really doing any research to know exactly what the post's were about.
Tenchu do you like yuri? If so then why do you have a problem with yaoi? What I'm saying is that the two genre's aren't that different from each other! Hence if somebody calls one of them sick then aren't they the pot calling the kettle black? The only difference is is that the people in yuri are female while in yaoi they are male!
:pinkbow:

I would give up, if I were you. Tenchu most likely has no interest in finding out about more about Inuyasha (which is fair enough; seeing as I don't either and I'm not disgusted by the topic in hand) and so far he hasn't said he likes Yuri either. Whether or not he's an idiot for posting insults in the thread (sick nerds with unnatural interests so far?) is up for debate, but I being able to list characters knowledgeably doesn't help either side of the argument. His objection is the homosexuality aspect of Yaoi media, not the specific characters being mentioned.

Tenchu 11-23-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 784521)
Uh...I have no idea what Azulieangel's post was about, but surely even without knowing the characters you could tell that 'blahblah and his brother' implied incest. I could and I've never seen Inuyasha. It's not about being a nerd or not it's semantic logic.

I don't know what she was talking about either. I think English is not her first language.

I was just a little bit shocked. Actually, I just downloaded all the Harry Potter movies, and I have been watching one each night for the last few nights, and am watching another tonight. So it kind of hit the spot hearing what someone said given I'm currently watching the movies.

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Originally Posted by AzulieAngel (Post 784527)
Tenchu do you like yuri? If so then why do you have a problem with yaoi?

I don't really like any porn, actually. Especially, cartoons would never do it for me, even if I did. But, I'd much rather have a picture of Jessica Alba in a bikini on my wall than look at some yuri of her on the internet, or any porn for that matter.

But, I particularily dislike the idea of using real characters to act out homosexual fantasies. How do you think Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter actor) feels about this? I'm sure he'd be less offended at hetrosexual cartoons, but I bet gay cartoons is not really his cup of tea.

I'd imagine, what if someone made a yaoi of me and Mike Tyson or someone? I would not approve.

I do not like any of this, but I especially dislike using real people.

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 784531)
His objection is the homosexuality aspect of Yaoi media, not the specific characters being mentioned.

Keep waiting for that sunrise!

Columbine 11-23-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 784534)
I don't know what she was talking about either. I think English is not her first language.

I was just a little bit shocked. Actually, I just downloaded all the Harry Potter movies, and I have been watching one each night for the last few nights, and am watching another tonight. So it kind of hit the spot hearing what someone said given I'm currently watching the movies.

I don't really like any porn, actually. Especially, cartoons would never do it for me, even if I did. But, I'd much rather have a picture of Jessica Alba in a bikini on my wall than look at some yuri of her on the internet, or any porn for that matter.

But, I particularily dislike the idea of using real characters to act out homosexual fantasies. How do you think Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter actor) feels about this? I'm sure he'd be less offended at hetrosexual cartoons, but I bet gay cartoons is not really his cup of tea.

I'd imagine, what if someone made a yaoi of me and Mike Tyson or someone? I would not approve.

I do not like any of this, but I especially dislike using real people.

Keep waiting for that sunrise!

Heh~ no, I can appreciate your viewpoint. I just dislike it when this kind of argument stays at nothing more than "EWW, gay people are gross" vs, "OMG, No wai u loser! Yaoi is totally hot!" because I can see from a psychological perspective that it's somewhat more subtle than that.

I agree some of the aspects are highly dubious and I don't agree with producing erotica based on real people without their express consent. There's also some very grey areas with 'ages' and as you've seen, things like incest, but I don't think those areas fail to exist in other types of erotica either so if we're just talking mainstream Yaoi, the only 'disturbing' aspect of it is the homosexuality.

I imagine if Dan. Radcliffe has been on the internet lately he's fully aware of what his fanbase gets up to, but then he is not actually Harry Potter the character and I think there lies the difference. Whilst there IS stuff featuring 'D. Radcliffe' the vast majority of the related yaoi media is about 'Harry Potter', and sometimes such an altered version of the character it's virtually a different person with the same name.

I've seen a surprising amount of stuff based on Japanese or Korean boy bands however, particularly comics and I'm more suppressed their agents haven't suppressed it already. I imagine if any compromising photographs of them were drifting about, they'd have stamped all over it, but the doujinshi somehow seems to slip through the net. Very curious.

Tenchu 11-23-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 784537)
Heh~ no, I can appreciate your viewpoint. I just dislike it when this kind of argument stays at nothing more than "EWW, gay people are gross" vs, "OMG, No wai u loser! Yaoi is totally hot!" because I can see from a psychological perspective that it's somewhat more subtle than that.

You must have written this paragraph before the sun had risen.

I understand the rest of your post, but can you please do this bit again.

Columbine 11-23-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 784539)
You must have written this paragraph before the sun had risen.

I understand the rest of your post, but can you please do this bit again.

What confused you?

AzulieAngel 11-23-2009 02:36 PM

Okay I'm bored
 
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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 784534)
I don't know what she was talking about either. I think English is not her first language.

I'm an American and proud of that fact!
My only language so far is english but I realize that I was not very clear the first time so I tried to corect that fact.
I was half asleep when I wrote that so I understand why you couldn't understand what I wrote.
Anything I write probably portray's me as insane, though I'm probably as sane as any of you!
I'm not going to try to get you to understand but not all yaoi is porn like!
This is the last post I'll put in this thread because I presented my side of this little debate to you, yet you don't understand what is being told to you by me and I'm fine with that!
Sayanara(spelling)good-bye)
:pinkbow:

Nyororin 11-23-2009 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 784537)
I've seen a surprising amount of stuff based on Japanese or Korean boy bands however, particularly comics and I'm more suppressed their agents haven't suppressed it already. I imagine if any compromising photographs of them were drifting about, they'd have stamped all over it, but the doujinshi somehow seems to slip through the net. Very curious.

In the case of Japanese bands, it`s actually legal and accepted. A form of fan made publicity. In the end, it doesn`t matter how the fans want to see them as long as they`re not selling the stuff as TRUE, and as long as they are spending money on the real goods.

Columbine 11-23-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 784564)
In the case of Japanese bands, it`s actually legal and accepted. A form of fan made publicity. In the end, it doesn`t matter how the fans want to see them as long as they`re not selling the stuff as TRUE, and as long as they are spending money on the real goods.

Really? Wow~ well there you are then. Mystery solved!

AkioFlameWall 12-22-2010 07:12 PM

I love yaoi! I love writing it, reading it! Its my favorite genre (ish) after Shonen! I can't pick a favorite couple though :pinkcry: I like SoraxSunao (Sukisho) and RitsukaxSoubi (Loveless) and YukixShuichi (Gravitation) and UsamixMisaki (Junjou Romantica) and SonoxSeiji (Sensitive ...yeah) and MiraxKazu (Papa to Kiss in the Dark)...I might just go with SoraxSunao...they were my first yaoi/shonen-ai pair so...but I AM a yaoi fangirl...(and not the "kyah!" :lovecat: :angryblob: :pompoms: weirdo, scary type we're all afraid of and accused of being :rolleyes:)


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