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TalnSG 06-13-2008 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hisuwashi (Post 513745)
But then again, Bush isn't all that bad. He's not as stupid as the media claim either. After all, how else would he have gained power...and twice?

Oh wait, Hisuwashi. He is that bad and he was before he ever campaigned for the Presidency. He lived down the street from a relative so when I say he's in my backyard its almost literal. When he was Governor of Texas he was horrible. When his response to a religious meeting hall being torched in his jurisdiction, after a rabid minister called for its destruction, was to turn his back and ignore it because it was not Christian I lost all respect for him as a man, much less as someone in a leadership role. The man is not stupid, but he is despicable.

MMM 06-13-2008 09:05 PM

Not all that bad? Have you looked at the state of the nation, both inside and also how the world sees us?

Hisuwashi 06-13-2008 09:29 PM

Well I'm not American and have never been to the USA so I can only use the media to analyze its situation.

I think you will always be against my views MMM, but that may be because I do not always take the media for granted.

I am just comparing Bush to some other leaders. You could be in Zimbabwe, under dictator Mugabe. Or maybe under Hitler or Stalin. Which would you prefer?

It makes me wonder if perhaps Obama should have stood for presidential elections in his father's native Kenya instead. Of course there would have been controversy over him being Kenya's first 'white' president.

ivi0nk3y 06-13-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hisuwashi (Post 513805)
Well I'm not American and have never been to the USA so I can only use the media to analyze its situation.

I think you will always be against my views MMM, but that may be because I do not always take the media for granted.

I am just comparing Bush to some other leaders. You could be in Zimbabwe, under dictator Mugabe. Or maybe under Hitler or Stalin. Which would you prefer?

It makes me wonder if perhaps Obama should have stood for presidential elections in his father's native Kenya instead. Of course there would have been controversy over him being Kenya's first 'white' president.

Dude, those other leaders are not in a position that makes them a world power. You cannot compare leaders like that to an American president who has much different issues to deal with.
Bush f*cked up his responsibility and is a terrible politician, nevermind a president.

koaku 06-13-2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hisuwashi (Post 513805)
Well I'm not American and have never been to the USA so I can only use the media to analyze its situation.

I think you will always be against my views MMM, but that may be because I do not always take the media for granted.

I am just comparing Bush to some other leaders. You could be in Zimbabwe, under dictator Mugabe. Or maybe under Hitler or Stalin. Which would you prefer?

It makes me wonder if perhaps Obama should have stood for presidential elections in his father's native Kenya instead. Of course there would have been controversy over him being Kenya's first 'white' president.


First mistakes...make your own opinion..read book, history..dont listen to media..I mean you can but not only for an opinion..

Hisuwashi 06-13-2008 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by koaku (Post 513811)
First mistakes...make your own opinion..read book, history..dont listen to media..I mean you can but not only for an opinion..

My sentiments Exactly.

AmericanOtakuLee 06-13-2008 09:44 PM

Bush is not stupid first of all
2.The I do not give a Damn how the world sees when they are busy Appeaseing Radcical islam Sharia law
3.Obama will destroy our relationship with Israel and Japan
4.Obama is worst then carter/chamberlain combined
5.Us Military will not support obama like they will McCain
6.Obama is a dunce when it comes the economy he acts if he can Magically make life fair
7.Obama Backs Fascist Racist Opressive Gun Control laws
8 Neither Cubans that want freedom or Israelis trust obama

MMM 06-13-2008 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hisuwashi (Post 513805)
Well I'm not American and have never been to the USA so I can only use the media to analyze its situation.

I think you will always be against my views MMM, but that may be because I do not always take the media for granted.

So you only get your information from the media, but I am the one that takes the media for granted.

Why is it that I am constantly being accused of "taking the media for granted". You aren't the first one to use this argument against me, and it just feels like a non-argument. "You don't know what you are talking about because you watch the news." (I have also been told I am ignornant because I listened to my science professors and my doctor on these forums. Some how being educated makes you ignorant.)

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Originally Posted by Hisuwashi (Post 513805)
I am just comparing Bush to some other leaders. You could be in Zimbabwe, under dictator Mugabe. Or maybe under Hitler or Stalin. Which would you prefer?

You having to actually go so low as to ask "Which is better, Bush or Hitler?" completely makes my point for me. That's how bad Bush is. You have to invoke the name if Hitler to find a worse leader.

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Originally Posted by Hisuwashi (Post 513805)
It makes me wonder if perhaps Obama should have stood for presidential elections in his father's native Kenya instead. Of course there would have been controversy over him being Kenya's first 'white' president.

Obama isn't Kenyan. He's American.

MMM 06-13-2008 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericanOtakuLee (Post 513814)
Bush is not stupid first of all
2.The I do not give a Damn how the world sees when they are busy Appeaseing Radcical islam Sharia law

If I am understanding you correctly, it is this attitude that has gotten us onto the problems we are in now.

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Originally Posted by AmericanOtakuLee (Post 513814)
3.Obama will destroy our relationship with Israel and Japan

A completely baseless sentence. Israel is an ally of the US, as is Japan. There is no reason to think those relationships will be adversely affected.

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Originally Posted by AmericanOtakuLee (Post 513814)
4.Obama is worst then carter/chamberlain combined

Again, a meaningless statement. Explain what you mean if you want people to listen.

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Originally Posted by AmericanOtakuLee (Post 513814)
5.Us Military will not support obama like they will McCain

The President is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, not the other way around. Another baseless statement.

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Originally Posted by AmericanOtakuLee (Post 513814)
6.Obama is a dunce when it comes the economy he acts if he can Magically make life fair

McCain says he doesn't know much about the economy...but fact don't seem to be a priority here.

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Originally Posted by AmericanOtakuLee (Post 513814)
7.Obama Backs Fascist Racist Opressive Gun Control laws

Yawn.
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Originally Posted by AmericanOtakuLee (Post 513814)
8 Neither Cubans that want freedom or Israelis trust obama

I thought you didn't care what the outside world thought.

Come back with some facts next time, then we can talk.

koaku 06-13-2008 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericanOtakuLee (Post 513814)
Bush is not stupid first of all
2.The I do not give a Damn how the world sees when they are busy Appeaseing Radcical islam Sharia law
3.Obama will destroy our relationship with Israel and Japan
4.Obama is worst then carter/chamberlain combined
5.Us Military will not support obama like they will McCain
6.Obama is a dunce when it comes the economy he acts if he can Magically make life fair

U speak about religion but the real problem is only economic..im sure of that at 90% religion is a pretext like war..like i said before ALL THE WORLD OF POLITICS DONT CARE ABOUT RELIGION THERE TOO MUCH MONEY TO EARN damn!..

3-How do you know that? During the first year of Bush you already knew what happened until today?
We cant no longer judge the politics today..we can only be patient and wait for result..I said before that if Obama change your life wht are you gonna say now?? judgin' him again??..

4-Up!

5-And Why???If Obama is the President they will just support him...he's the President right??..don't mix military and politics..

6-LoOooL Humm...Your a newby in Politics or what?? They all doin' the same thing! promise promise promise promise promise promise..
That the goal of an election campaign! you're asking questions, he will answer the most favourable as possible lol They all say somethin today but wait..like 3month they all gonna say something else later


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