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Those are all very good points. But the point I was making is that it's not impossible to have two or three times our current population. Humans always find ways to survive, and if arable (new word for me, thanks :) ) land runs out, there will be other ways to make better use of that land, or even advances in GM foods.
Idealy, the worlds population shouldn't increase anymore because the increase comes from the poorer countries, which in turn wastes lives as there IS a lack in food, water land etc. With that said, if there is a solution to this, then an increase in population wouldn't be such a problem. |
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I guess that is in relation to it being a smaller country though. |
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I don't think you get what I meant. Let's take europe for example. It's densly populated and build up. What's stopping us from doing the same thing in say, Africa! You don't need arable land to live in the desert, look at the likes of Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc. The problem, is more what Odin was talking about. It's the arable land. But even then, like they say, if there is a will, there is a way. Maybe I shouldn't have said the word "easily", but it is definately possible. Are you serious? I don't think you've been on as many planes as you claim you have. What you said is only true when landing or departing. But, as soon as you get pretty high, you will see much much more greenary. (hint, go check out google earth) |
I dont get people who suggest we should drill oil and drilling it at even more places. The focus should be on finding alternative fuels. Since we are so many humans that we are, we are using way to much of the worlds resources food water forests etc.
Another issue with the overpopulation is that we humans are causing the global heating. Each human contributes in some minor or major way, in fact if something isnt done within soon. The human race will have triggered a new ice age. How Global Warming May Cause the Next Ice Age... |
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Yeah, I agree, that article was highly speculative. He mixed in enough good science, to make the rest sound reasonable. It makes for an interesting book, but is far from being a fair scientific analysis. It is not total BS, but it still has that odor! As far as the "Snowball Earth" theory is concerned there are more questions than answers. There is little doubt that the Cyogenian period was one of the coldest in history. However there is quite a bit of evidence to suggest that is was not a total freeze. This evedence is in the form of sediment deposits that only form from rapidly moving water and seasonal ice melting events. More reasonable studies point that oceanic freezing at the most extended to 25°. It is believed however that even at the equator there was extensive glacial activity in the inland of the supercontinent of Rodinia. It should be noted that the rapid erosion of Rodina, the same event that help trap carbon-dioxide and bring about the ice age, also released massive amounts of minerals and nutrients into the ocean. Those nutrients were the source of the massive explosion in the amount of life after the ice receded. So the ice was as necessary as the fire that ended it. Also it should be noted that the volcanic activity only accelerated the end of the ice age. Eventually Rodina would break apart, and the ocean currents would have stopped the continental cooling effect. OK enough with theories of the ancient past. lets talk about our current problems. :D |
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Eventually this rapid population growth and the following use of resources will cause some sort of breakdown, and backlash at us (or them). Whether it be some sort of disease, starvation, climate change... I think it will come eventually, because really, I don't think the world's countries can work together well enough to find a real solution and perform it in time. However I find it funny to read (to the gackt dude: change your font/color dude, impossible to read) about people hating "libs" and "hippies" because they for example don't want companies to drill for oil beneath e.g. glaciers, to "save some fish". I can understand these environment fanatics often come across as total douches, but that is not reason enough to hate the information. Firstly, it aint to "save some fish". Secondly, really, does anyone think that a good, long-term solution to the world's problems is to find more oil? really? Or do you just want a quick fix? Just my 2. |
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But, as someone else said, it should be obvious that running around the globe searching for more oil aint a real solution to anything (but a quick buck). |
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But, NO, I meant the super-continent of Rodinia. It formed ~1.1 billion years ago, and it predated the continent of of Pangaea by over 800 million. It was the 3rd of the eight so called super-continents believed to have existed in Earth's history. This is the landmass that is involved with the "Snowball Earth" theory. Yes it is beleived that massive glaciers existed at the equator, on the interior highlands of Rodinia. Quote:
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minorities like the tibetans are excluded from the one child policy which only apply to the han chinese |
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Tenchu, would you go so far as to actually agree with the "hippie, liberal , left wing, socialist" concept of Zero-population growth? I remember endorsing it sometime around 1969 - and I still think is critical to survival of the planet. The solution is less mouths to feed that are created, in large part, only to satisfy the egos of the parents. |
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