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So.... anyways. I just heard the chinese government is closing down several factories now to clear the air before the olympics. Can't have the people of the world think they have problems with pollution I guess...

Of course, afterwards back on they go..
Sorry but why would they give a crap about what the people of the world think? If they did, wouldn't you think they'd have a different regime by now and be more "world friendly" in their dealings?
As for the issue you've come up with, I think its been made quite clear that China pollutes but so do a lot of other countries.


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Sorry but why would they give a crap about what the people of the world think? If they did, wouldn't you think they'd have a different regime by now and be more "world friendly" in their dealings?
As for the issue you've come up with, I think its been made quite clear that China pollutes but so do a lot of other countries.
Well, that doesn't make what i said untrue. China is together with the US the worst polluters with horrible environment standards, so yeah, other countries do it too but theyre right up there at the top...

And yeah, I actually think they do care somewhat, when so much people are actually going over there. The human rights stuff people read in a magazine and say "thats awful", and then do nothing. But if people actually saw all the shit first-hand, that would be worse. It's also well known they've been killing off tons of street roaming dogs in preparations for the olympics.


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They kill homeless dogs in western countries also after they have been in captivity for over 2 weeks and not been adopted; that is the only reason Australia is stray dog free. This is the kind of BS I am talking about. You have been told stuff for impact, and it has been designed and put out in a way as to sell a story and popular opinion; it is not accurate, however.
Haha. Yeah. The chinese collect the dogs and keep them for 2 weeks first...


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But I'm all wrong I guess. China is all fine and sweet and beautiful. Much like the big rock candy mountains!


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07-30-2008, 09:54 AM

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Damn you are an inept pompous little shit arent you?
First you ask for "evidence" that supports your little understanding on how the media works. Then you don't even have the brain power to remember all the shit that's been discussed in the previous posts.
I've given you snippets of ONE incident which you said you didn't believe. That would be the fact that Israelis are given a different spin rather than Palestinians. I forwarded it as an example of how biased the Western News can be.
Why did I post Galloway slamming the reporter? Because it shows the bias of the media and prevalent attitude they display when that type of news story is told. In this case Galloway was obviously there to correct that bullshit attitude but guess what idiot? He isn't there everytime is he? They won't post up a new clip of him savaging some reporter everytime will they? That clip is RARE simply because noone challenges reporters and the bullshit the media spews, like Galloway does.
That same media attitude occurs on more than one occasion and it is your incompetence which stops you from seeing it.



What a goddamned failure you are. You seem to have an understanding of Buddhism that supports your own menial understanding of the universe.
Allow me to educate you via a quick summary on the teachings of Buddha concerning a deity.
First and foremost, Buddha did initially say that finding a God was not as important as righting the sufferings of the world. Yet he never denied the existance of God either. If anything he kept quiet because India at that time was flooded by Idol worship.
Later on the religion of "self help" was turned into the religion of "promise & hope", since the Dhamma just didn't cut it with people. The Mahayana sect eventually made a God out of Buddha himself, saying his watchful and compassionate eyes are on all miserable beings.
Do you understand yet how Atheism has nothing to do with Buddhism now dipshit?
Oh and in my earlier post, I didn't actually insult you. Now you can just go ahead and kiss my ass you arrogant shit.

ps. Holyyyyyyy crap you stupid stupid man. You might have seen LOADS of videos on documentaries but i'm talking about how many of those facts make it onto the Western NEWS media.
Differentiate the two yet moron?
As for your "evidence". It's only evidence if you jump to the sorts of conclusions that I'm not willing to jump to dipshit. If only you had the sense to see what I was saying.

Also learn to read dipshit. I clearly said Buddhists CAN BE Atheists (as opposed to Buddhists ARE atheists.).

Now you're changing the definition of Western media? To be honest I really only added that line as an afterthought but it stands. The Western media includes investigative reporting as well as headline reporting. Concerning Tibet at least, does it not matter what sort of reporting it was?
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As for your "evidence". It's only evidence if you jump to the sorts of conclusions that I'm not willing to jump to dipshit. If only you had the sense to see what I was saying.
How am I jumping to conclusions when I KNOW what I see? It doesn't happen once or twice but LOTS of times. If you're blind enough to ignore it then that is your prerogative.

Dipshit.

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Also learn to read dipshit. I clearly said Buddhists CAN BE Atheists (as opposed to Buddhists ARE atheists.).
Obviously I gave you too much credit by actually replying to you in a light that made sense.
Let me break it down for you though.
What has "Buddhists can be Atheists" got to do with anything? Sikhs can be Atheists, Christians can be Atheists, hell anyone can be Atheists.. so wtf has a Buddhist that CAN BE an Atheist got to do with what the actual religion itself teaches...

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Now you're changing the definition of Western media? To be honest I really only added that line as an afterthought but it stands. The Western media includes investigative reporting as well as headline reporting. Concerning Tibet at least, does it not matter what sort of reporting it was?
Noone has changed the definition of "Western Media". The news is what has been argued about here since the start and that is where the majority of people will get their information from. If someone wants to research on their own, they will go look through other types of media but what i've been arguing about is that the news itself is biased. It reports on things and uses spin to get through their own points of view to the people. The same goes for the Chinese news and noone has denied that but you never answered my question about what Chinese articles you thought actually had been biased.


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How am I jumping to conclusions when I KNOW what I see? It doesn't happen once or twice but LOTS of times. If you're blind enough to ignore it then that is your prerogative.

Dipshit..
You don't know what you see. You have some stupid conspiracy theory that the Western media has some sort of grand political agenda and call any incident in which the media has not got it right as evidence of such.

It's kinda like how a Muslim watches a beautiful sunset or experiences a streak of luck and convinces himself that God was the cause of it.

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Obviously I gave you too much credit by actually replying to you in a light that made sense.
Let me break it down for you though.
What has "Buddhists can be Atheists" got to do with anything? Sikhs can be Atheists, Christians can be Atheists, hell anyone can be Atheists.. so wtf has a Buddhist that CAN BE an Atheist got to do with what the actual religion itself teaches...

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What has "Buddhists can be Atheists" got to do with anything? You're the one that tried to highlight the irony of an Atheist agreeing with a Buddhist quote remember?

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Noone has changed the definition of "Western Media". The news is what has been argued about here since the start and that is where the majority of people will get their information from. If someone wants to research on their own, they will go look through other types of media but what i've been arguing about is that the news itself is biased. It reports on things and uses spin to get through their own points of view to the people. The same goes for the Chinese news and noone has denied that but you never answered my question about what Chinese articles you thought actually had been biased.
If you remember correctly I've always said that the media exaggerates (spins) the news. That it not only purposely lies but does so to advance some grand Western political agenda is what I'm arguing against. Coming back to Tibet... I haven't really heard your defence against the media reports other than the accusations that the Western media are lying.
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08-03-2008, 07:14 AM

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It's kinda like how a Muslim watches a beautiful sunset or experiences a streak of luck and convinces himself that God was the cause of it.
You really are a supercilious, harebrained wanker arn't you? Why've you got to make remarks like that? Got nothing intellegent to say I suppose (pretty much like always)... It's like someone said, "if you make an idiot think he's thinking, he'll love you, but if you really make him think, he'll hate you." I guess that's what happened to you. You've finally started thinking and realised you're a complete twat... Well done...
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You really are a supercilious, harebrained wanker arn't you? Why've you got to make remarks like that? Got nothing intellegent to say I suppose (pretty much like always)... It's like someone said, "if you make an idiot think he's thinking, he'll love you, but if you really make him think, he'll hate you." I guess that's what happened to you. You've finally started thinking and realised you're a complete twat... Well done...
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08-03-2008, 07:31 AM

Hahahahahhaahaaa. The simpleton thinks i'm offended... Dude, I Pitty you. Why would I be offended by a hypocritical dickhead? You always preach about racism, then you go say what you said... Wow, I'm really offended by you
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