Helena Bonham Carter & Alan Rickman are two of my all time favorite actors,
I'm really exited about this movie *squeals*


How do you know if they've never shown it?

I'm pretty sure that was only on the cover of the box for the second movie that was on the market for two days.

I googled it XD
and yes it kind of does look like a ****
doubt they made it look like that on purpose though

Actually it was on purpose. The person who was making the animation got mad or something like that and put it there.

My Home Ec teacher told me all kinds of others...I think there was one in the Wizard of Oz as well

I'm pm'ing you, I have a feeling that we're not really contributing anything to this post by discussing hidden messages in disney movies XD

I'm excited as hell for this movie.

It's going to be good, for those wondering. Hell, the only reason Burton is making it is because he's seen all the other renditions of Alice in Wonderland in film and hated 'em.

I don't think Manson is going to make an Alice movie. If he did, I'm sure it would be fairly gothic and loose any and all of it's original meaning.

There are 3 Alice movies on the horizion:
- This one, Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland.
- American McGee's Alice, based on the video game that came out at the end of the 90's.
- Frank Beddor's The Looking Glass Wars, based on his series of books.

The only thing that's going to suck about this movie is it's franchised basterdization by Hot Topic for all the goth kids. I hope the economy does Tim Burton a favor and the store goes under; all his artistic and creative endevors is lost on the world thanks to goth kids who have no sense of individuality.

Dude, you botched this so bad.

I heard either late 2009, or mid 2010. :\ Either way, I want it out NOW.

I heard he was using "a camera never used in film before", and instead of CGI, he's using a magician...?

I like Tim Burton and I like Alice In Wonderland, but it's in 3D. I'm not sure if this whole 3D thing is going to work very well. Even if it works in the cinema, how will it come across on DVD?

It is Gothic. That's just how Manson is. And, it's more to do with Lewis Carrol and the hallucinations he had WHILE writing Alice in Wonderland. I'm not completely solid on all the details. :X So, just Google Phantasmagoria if still interested.

Yeah, it sounds like a fanservice to all goths, emos, punks, and pot smokers everywhere. There's so much folklore surrounding Lewis Caroll and his writing Alice in Wonderland that it's pretty much up to everyone's interpretation at this point. Of course, since no one is willing to get their facts straight, no one really knows what they're talking about in regards to the issue; I highly doubt Manson did his research.

I'm more interested in Phantasmagoria.

From the short trailer I've seen, it looks bloody fantastic lol...

I love the stuff that come out of Tim Burton's imagination. And I'm interested in seeing which direction he goes with the story.

I heard that the book "Alice's Adventures In Wonderland" actually has a dark undercurrent (I haven't read it yet), that Disney left out. It'd be cool to see if Tim takes it there, if there's a there to be took to lol. ::coughbadgrammarcough::

Either way, Tim makes beautiful films so I'm sure it'll be something to see.

I used to really love Alice in Wonderland when I was a kid, my mum said I used to watch it all the time. I do like Tim Burtons work usually, so I think it'd make a nice combo.

Tim burton's got new stuff?!
Cool beans:)

It does.

Now go out, buy the book for $5, and relish in reading it.

I myself have watched Alice in Wonderland many times when i was a kid, so I can understand the feelings of people when the great Tim Burton decides to make it into a live action movie. But i'm not afraid. Burton has made tons of great movies, not one has had a bad remark yet. I'm curious to see his spin on Lewis Carroll's story. :)

Im really looking forward to both Alice ovies coming out. Eventhough they are goin to be done by two different directors it feels like they are sequels to eachother. and for those who dont know, American McGee's Alioce is also being made into a movie, which i feel is a great sequel to the the darker style of Tim Burton. Although Tiim Burton has a darker style geared twards kids and American McGee's Alice is just dark and twisted. (haha) But both movies should not disappoint.

I really do want to see it as also. *wonders*

ha......*rawr* scared yet?!

I'm not a big fan of Burton's work but this sounds sort of interesting.