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SephirothVVC 05-09-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyLuck (Post 713321)
I don't see the problem with a guy buying a girl nice things like that. It's really sweet especially if it's a strain in his wallet. I mean a guy who is willing to not buy tickets to that big game or purchase that new car just to get me something to wear around my neck, is usually really sweet. I probably wouldn't take something like that on the first date and it defiantly wouldn't win my heart, but if we'd been dating awhile it'd defiantly give him brownie points.

thats seems like selfish love. you want a guy to spend lots of money he probably doesnt have so you can look at a tiny rock as a representation of 'love'

i think if someone who was offered a diamond really loved their partner, would tell them to return it, so that money can be spent to go on a vacation or something where they will both have a good time with each other

Compaqmac321 05-09-2009 10:13 PM

HAHA this thread and the comments are pretty funny

komitsuki 05-09-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713450)
i think if someone who was offered a diamond really loved their partner, would tell them to return it, so that money can be spent to go on a vacation or something where they will both have a good time with each other

Exactly what I thought of.

LuckyLuck 05-09-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713450)
thats seems like selfish love. you want a guy to spend lots of money he probably doesnt have so you can look at a tiny rock as a representation of 'love'

i think if someone who was offered a diamond really loved their partner, would tell them to return it, so that money can be spent to go on a vacation or something where they will both have a good time with each other

Did I say I wanted it? I said I didn't mind it. I don't expect or demand anything of someone I date, especially expensive items. I just think it's nice.

And don't start on that guilt trip There's nothing wrong with accepting pricey gifts from someone you love. How is that even selfish? Partners buy each other expensive gifts all the time. he gives me a diamond for my birthday I buy him a car for his, that's no different from two highschool lovers buying one another posters and teddy bears, same amount of money could've been spent spending time together at the movies, Lol.

Spending money on each other is part of being in a serious relationship.

SephirothVVC 05-10-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LuckyLuck (Post 713488)
Did I say I wanted it? I said I didn't mind it. I don't expect or demand anything of someone I date, especially expensive items. I just think it's nice.

And don't start on that guilt trip There's nothing wrong with accepting pricey gifts from someone you love. How is that even selfish? Partners buy each other expensive gifts all the time. he gives me a diamond for my birthday I buy him a car for his, that's no different from two highschool lovers buying one another posters and teddy bears, same amount of money could've been spent spending time together at the movies, Lol.

Spending money on each other is part of being in a serious relationship.

did i say i think your shallow? i just dont agree with what you think. just because most couples are like that, doesnt mean they all are.

ozkai 05-10-2009 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713450)
thats seems like selfish love. you want a guy to spend lots of money he probably doesnt have so you can look at a tiny rock as a representation of 'love'

i think if someone who was offered a diamond really loved their partner, would tell them to return it, so that money can be spent to go on a vacation or something where they will both have a good time with each other

Going a tad to far I think..

If you love your partner, would you sell your car, watch, etc.

A diamond has a general meaning in a arelationship and that word is love.

For keeps you would think..

Debi 05-10-2009 02:16 AM

Diamonds are rare
Women love what is rare
So Women love Diamonds

Simple math.

SephirothVVC 05-10-2009 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ozkai (Post 713565)
Going a tad to far I think..

If you love your partner, would you sell your car, watch, etc.

A diamond has a general meaning in a arelationship and that word is love.

For keeps you would think..

you dont know what love is so dont quote me anymore

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Originally Posted by Debi (Post 713566)
Diamonds are rare
Women love what is rare
So Women love Diamonds

Simple math.

how is it rare? almost all married couples do it. its extremely common

ozkai 05-10-2009 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713570)
you dont know what love is so dont quote me anymore



how is it rare, almost all married couples do it. its extremely common

A little bit shallow their aren't we...

SephirothVVC 05-10-2009 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ozkai (Post 713574)
A little bit shallow their aren't we...

how is that shallow?! do you even know what that means?! you talk to/about other girls on here as if you were single. your a pig!

reihiino 05-10-2009 02:33 AM

wow...geez people...
anyway back to topic...
well if the op is serious about saving several months of paychecks to show his love to his girl so be it...
just hope that this realtionship is worth it, you know what I mean?

ozkai 05-10-2009 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713576)
how is that shallow?! do you even know what that means?! you talk to/about other girls on here as if you were single. your a pig!

My apologies... I think you are cute too;)

Shallow means not deep.

Debi 05-10-2009 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713570)
how is it rare? almost all married couples do it. its extremely common

Do you purposely try to argue with me ?

Diamonds are RARE.

You don't walk in the street and see a diamond lying there.

ozkai 05-10-2009 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pexster (Post 707202)
I don't really like Diamonds, they are nice to look at, but not really me.

But your girl?

SephirothVVC 05-10-2009 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Debi (Post 713590)
Do you purposely try to argue with me ?

Diamonds are RARE.

You don't walk in the street and see a diamond lying there.

they are rare in comparison to an everyday rock, but not rare in the fact that its the most popular thing to give a woman. almost everyone has one

Debi 05-10-2009 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713607)
they are rare in comparison to an everyday rock, but not rare in the fact that its the most popular thing to give a woman. almost everyone has one

It's not because you often see petty dust-sized diamond on a ring that they are less rare.

Diamonds are rare, how can you argue against that ?

SephirothVVC 05-10-2009 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Debi (Post 713614)
It's not because you often see petty dust-sized diamond on a ring that they are less rare.

Diamonds are rare, how can you argue against that ?

because they are the most popular jewelry!!!!

xYinniex 05-10-2009 03:21 AM

if i was in a serious relationship, then whats wrong with a little indulgence, and its not everyday you find the perfect cut of diamond paired together with a perfect piece of silver/gold/platinum.

Yes, I am shallow in wanting little trinkets, but honestly, if you were given the choice to get it, then dammit, i'm so in there.

Debi 05-10-2009 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 713618)
because they are the most popular jewelry!!!!

THE RARE THINGS ARE EVEN MORE POPULAR! !

ozkai 05-10-2009 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by xYinniex (Post 713621)
if i was in a serious relationship, then whats wrong with a little indulgence, and its not everyday you find the perfect cut of diamond paired together with a perfect piece of silver/gold/platinum.

Yes, I am shallow in wanting little trinkets, but honestly, if you were given the choice to get it, then dammit, i'm so in there.

Totally agree with you.

And what would you do if your man gave you a diamond, you loved that stone for years, showed it off proudly to all you knew, only to find out after all those years later that it was infact not a real diamond, but rather, a Cubic Ziconia?

SephirothVVC 05-10-2009 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Debi (Post 713631)
THE RARE THINGS ARE EVEN MORE POPULAR! !

yes, the are rare in comparison to everything else in the world. BUT not rare as a relationship thing

xYinniex 05-10-2009 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ozkai (Post 713632)
Totally agree with you.

And what would you do if your man gave you a diamond, you loved that stone for years, showed it off proudly to all you knew, only to find out after all those years later that it was infact not a real diamond, but rather, a Cubic Ziconia?

if we were still in love- I would do the things couple's do and make fun of him about it, it'll be something to tell the grandkids. =) because if i was with him many years later, It means i've already fallen in love.

However, if we were in a rocky part of the relationship, then yeah, like any woman would, use it against him, duh.

Debi 05-10-2009 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xYinniex (Post 713621)
if i was in a serious relationship, then whats wrong with a little indulgence, and its not everyday you find the perfect cut of diamond paired together with a perfect piece of silver/gold/platinum.

Yes, I am shallow in wanting little trinkets, but honestly, if you were given the choice to get it, then dammit, i'm so in there.

You are right, you are shallow.

Is being shallow something wrong ? No but it's definitely not great either.

I'd love to give my wife an awesome and perfectly cut diamond if it's what she really wanted.

But if it's what she really wanted I doubt she would be my wife.

xYinniex 05-10-2009 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Debi (Post 713639)
You are right, you are shallow.

Is being shallow something wrong ? No but it's definitely not great either.

I'd love to give my wife an awesome and perfectly cut diamond if it's what she really wanted.

But if it's what she really wanted I doubt she would be my wife.

But most women don't ask for diamonds and rubies everyday, so in that sense its not really that shallow.

Diamonds are perfect for special occasions, but if you think buying a diamond for that is too much, then thats just...beyond cheap.

ozkai 05-10-2009 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Debi (Post 713639)
You are right, you are shallow.

Is being shallow something wrong ? No but it's definitely not great either.

I'd love to give my wife an awesome and perfectly cut diamond if it's what she really wanted.

But if it's what she really wanted I doubt she would be my wife.

That's lovely Dave:rheart:

That definitely qualifies with an extension feeling into the Poem threa.

by the way, If you have any spare diamond rocks, please send over my way:vsign:

Debi 05-10-2009 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by xYinniex (Post 713651)
But most women don't ask for diamonds and rubies everyday, so in that sense its not really that shallow.

Diamonds are perfect for special occasions, but if you think buying a diamond for that is too much, then thats just...beyond cheap.

Hmmm... yeah.

Maybe because I associate diamond with superficial I have a bad opinion about it.

But if it's done correctly, you know, like "Diamonds are eternal, so is our love" *kiss kiss* or this kind of romance, I guess it can be pretty good :rolleyes:

ozkai 05-10-2009 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by xYinniex (Post 713651)
But most women don't ask for diamonds and rubies everyday, so in that sense its not really that shallow.

Diamonds are perfect for special occasions, but if you think buying a diamond for that is too much, then thats just...beyond cheap.

I think it's case of weather you have the $$$

rison 05-10-2009 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by xYinniex (Post 713651)
But most women don't ask for diamonds and rubies everyday, so in that sense its not really that shallow.

Diamonds are perfect for special occasions, but if you think buying a diamond for that is too much, then thats just...beyond cheap.

I agree, If you can afford it and you love her so much, why not.

pumpum 05-10-2009 04:07 AM

I think its more of a show off thing -girls like to tell other girls "ooh look what so&so bought me" its a sort of a commitment thing for girls.

xYinniex 05-10-2009 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pumpum (Post 713701)
I think its more of a show off thing -girls like to tell other girls "ooh look what so&so bought me" its a sort of a commitment thing for girls.

ah, its a bonus, not mainly a show off thing.

ozkai 05-10-2009 12:20 PM

And for a little more isnight, have a look at what these diggers go through to find one!
BBC NEWS | Programmes | From Our Own Correspondent | Diamonds are a miner's best friend

Dondake 05-10-2009 05:22 PM

I don't like jewlery. ^^;;
I'd prefer someone buy me something practical like kanji flashcards or a Japanese grammar book.

xYinniex 05-12-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondake (Post 714099)
I don't like jewlery. ^^;;
I'd prefer someone buy me something practical like kanji flashcards or a Japanese grammar book.

Oh honey...
you're beyond hope.

If you tell guys that, they're gona think you're a cheap date and take advantage of you.

And as much as i hate to say; Jewelry, in the modern world gives woman a sophisticated air and even if you don't like it, it really does make a difference to how people perceive you, as someone respectable.

ozkai 05-13-2009 02:47 AM

WOW! A blue diamond record selling at US$9.5 mill!

I wish I had the $$ to buy this for my babe;) :rheart:

AoiChan 05-13-2009 02:50 AM

Diamonds are nice and all but I rather get something thats useful.

ozkai 05-21-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AoiChan (Post 715735)
Diamonds are nice and all but I rather get something thats useful.

But many girls do find diamonds useful.

strawberryfuzz 05-21-2009 03:55 PM

Diamonds are pretty but not all girls like/want them.
I dont' like diamonds or jewelry

ozkai 05-21-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by strawberryfuzz (Post 720470)
Diamonds are pretty but not all girls like/want them.
I dont' like diamonds or jewelry

Snob:mad: ;)

strawberryfuzz 05-21-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ozkai (Post 720476)
Snob:mad: ;)

ROFL, yep im a snob!~

TalnSG 05-21-2009 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ozkai (Post 713632)
Totally agree with you.

And what would you do if your man gave you a diamond, you loved that stone for years, showed it off proudly to all you knew, only to find out after all those years later that it was infact not a real diamond, but rather, a Cubic Ziconia?

If I had been told at the time it was given that it was cubic zirconia, it would have been fine. There is as much to the gesture as the object.

But to find out years later that I had been lied to, especially about something I had thought so special? The man better have armor or steer clear of me for a while. The issue is the deception, not the value of the object.


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