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Tenchu 07-21-2009 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 749947)
Once puberty hits and the body goes through those changes, you cannot reverse them. So it`s one path or the other - there is no middle road where nothing irreversible happens. You might not be so sure of yourself at 16, but I am fairly certain you were at least sure of what gender you were...

Miss Tiffany Thailand not agree!


Nyororin 07-21-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 749953)
Miss Tiffany Thailand not agree!


Well, let me ask you. If you were to remove your body hair, stick fake breasts on, and put on makeup - how feminine would you look?
It depends on the person. Asian bodies tend not to develop quite as strong body shape traits in males.

Tenchu 07-21-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 749956)
Well, let me ask you. If you were to remove your body hair, stick fake breasts on, and put on makeup - how feminine would you look?
It depends on the person. Asian bodies tend not to develop quite as strong body shape traits in males.

LOL. I think I'd still look like a drunk gorilla!

I dunno. I can see your point, but I don't think it is right, really. It is a difficult situation.

You want to know, I played with dolls a bit when I was a boy. Not I'm an oversized super angry Muay Thai boxer. But I could have just as easily been gay, and then said I have always been female. I think it is a delusion. Honestly, I just think they're gay, and no gender identity disorder really exists.

Salvanas 07-21-2009 03:35 PM

It's a hard choice. But It's not my call, and however much one person stomps his foot and calls it wrong, it won't change a thing.

If it truly makes the child happy, and if it truly is needed, then I don't see why not. When you're given two doors, and one leads through a dark and horrible tunnel, yet the other one doesn't promise anything. Which one would you go for?

If you were really affected by this problem, and you had the choice of either staying miserable or having 1% chance of you becoming happy, I'm sure we would all choose for the 1%.

It's all down to the individual.

alanX 07-21-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 749957)
I think it is a delusion. Honestly, I just think they're gay, and no gender identity disorder really exists.

Agreed 100%.

Nyororin 07-21-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 749957)
LOL. I think I'd still look like a drunk gorilla!

I dunno. I can see your point, but I don't think it is right, really. It is a difficult situation.

You want to know, I played with dolls a bit when I was a boy. Not I'm an oversized super angry Muay Thai boxer. But I could have just as easily been gay, and then said I have always been female. I think it is a delusion. Honestly, I just think they're gay, and no gender identity disorder really exists.

I think that probably 95% of the time, it is something along those lines. But I think it is very hard to say that there is no such thing as a gender identity disorder. Other things can go wrong in the human body, so I believe that it`s entirely possible that a hormone/signal/etc to set gender in the brain can either not go through or go through incorrectly. It`s been shown that exposure to (or lack of) hormones during early gestation can wreak havoc in that area - even if they`re natural hormones. In my son`s case, it was pretty darned extreme so physically obvious... But if it were milder there would really be no way to tell.

I don`t believe that anyone should just be able to up and decide to change genders, but there are some cases where it may be alright. It really comes down to how much evaluation and how "real" the situation is. If a kid has honestly identified only with girls from birth on then it`s really hard to say it`s just a phase or has to do with something shorter termed. Even feminine boys still consider themselves boys while playing with dolls.

iPhantom 07-21-2009 04:30 PM

I think I'm Asian from my inside, I'll do a change of race surgery.

Shanis 07-21-2009 04:46 PM

I saw her on TV, though she was a guy she looks cute somehow (but I can't imagine to be in love with someone like that when I know it was a guy). She already wanted to be a girl for so long so it's O.K. I think but alowing everyone to do so just because they "want" it for some weeks/months/years would be ridiculous, it should stay at 18 and they should do something like a test to see if they are sure about it.

Zagato289 07-21-2009 06:14 PM

I think 16 is too early. I even think 18 is early too. 21 would be the perfect age.

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 749945)
I don't think a sex change is good at any age.

Sex-changes did play a role in the billions of years of organism that have existed here on Earth. So what's the point? Because you want to be cool? Cliche? Different? Stand-out?

What has America come to...

Dude its not their fault. they dont feel like they belong in the body they are so they have the right t change. Its not because they want to look cool.

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 749957)
LOL. I think I'd still look like a drunk gorilla!

I dunno. I can see your point, but I don't think it is right, really. It is a difficult situation.

You want to know, I played with dolls a bit when I was a boy. Not I'm an oversized super angry Muay Thai boxer. But I could have just as easily been gay, and then said I have always been female. I think it is a delusion. Honestly, I just think they're gay, and no gender identity disorder really exists.

I juse to play with dolls when I was a lil kid.Why? My only friends then were my cousins that were females.

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 749960)
Agreed 100%.

then what do u think gay is? i alway think gays is cuase by hormones problems. Ok, enough with gay thing,. i dont wamt this to get close.

Salvanas 07-21-2009 07:02 PM

4 fucking posts Zagato. There is an edit option for a reason.

{taken care of}


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