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Kenpachi11 08-07-2009 11:05 PM

Kids education is harder now?
 
Well...i was looking in workbooks today that had 1-5 math and 6th grade math in it. I found out that 6th grade math is harder now then when i had it.

Do you believe what they teach kids now is harder and better than what they taught us?

Quailboy 08-07-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenpachi11 (Post 758028)
Well...i was looking in workbooks today that had 1-5 math and 6th grade math in it. I found out that 6th grade math is harder now then when i had it.

Do you believe what they teach kids now is harder and better than what they taught us?

I dont find school in general to be hard whatsoever..all it does is help you with memorization skills..nothing else. Dates, Times, Names..Equations. Thats about it.

hinata2 08-07-2009 11:24 PM

yes they are teaching collage courses in high school

ThaDuke 08-07-2009 11:35 PM

Government school has always been dumbed down. It's hard to learn anything there anyways.

I think we need more private schools.

Quailboy 08-07-2009 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hinata2 (Post 758035)
yes they are teaching collage courses in high school

The majority of these are voulentary though.

Kenpachi11 08-07-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Quailboy (Post 758043)
The majority of these are voulentary though.

Where i live they say if you want to get into a college and not a tech school. your best bet will be to take college courses.

Quailboy 08-07-2009 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenpachi11 (Post 758047)
Where i live they say if you want to get into a college and not a tech school. your best bet will be to take college courses.

Hmm, I haven't heard anything like that..

Kenpachi11 08-07-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Quailboy (Post 758048)
Hmm, I haven't heard anything like that..

Yip. they say some colleges wont accept you if you have a tech degree from high school.

Quailboy 08-08-2009 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenpachi11 (Post 758049)
Yip. they say some colleges wont accept you if you have a tech degree from high school.

Hmm, that dosen't sound right..I'll have to look into that

Kenpachi11 08-08-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Quailboy (Post 758051)
Hmm, that dosen't sound right..I'll have to look into that

I know. but i guess its bc tech classes are different from college classes in school.

Quailboy 08-08-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenpachi11 (Post 758052)
I know. but i guess its bc tech classes are different from college classes in school.

Meh, getting back on topic though..

General school..K-12 isn't bad at all and never will be unless they start inducing manual labor xD

Yuna7780 08-08-2009 12:47 AM

If you look back about 40 years and beyond... That's when you actually had to be smart to get an A... The school grading system is out of whack, but certain classes are harder now because of more discoveries and different methods.

hinata2 08-08-2009 12:55 AM

i agree the grading system is out of control sometimes i used to get alot of As and others i would only get Fs they just give u wat they want based upon you not your work.

Sblegach 08-08-2009 03:13 AM

Well in my school I had like 4 different math courses to take before i graduated. A; A2; B1; B2; and that was hard enough believe me >_< However right when I finished that they made this new math course, called Integrated Math!??!?!! Wtf, its supposedly all of this crap in one, its much harder and better for kids now???? No the stuff I learned was freaking hard as hell!! Its too much...

Megabyte117 08-08-2009 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenpachi11 (Post 758028)
Well...i was looking in workbooks today that had 1-5 math and 6th grade math in it. I found out that 6th grade math is harder now then when i had it.

Do you believe what they teach kids now is harder and better than what they taught us?

Where do you live? Because in Arizona, the education system is a complete joke. Most kids are placed in advanced classes not because they are qualified, but because classrooms are too crowded. Everything is dumbed down, and getting an A is meaningless.

Kenpachi11 08-08-2009 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Megabyte117 (Post 758098)
Where do you live? Because in Arizona, the education system is a complete joke. Most kids are placed in advanced classes not because they are qualified, but because classrooms are too crowded. Everything is dumbed down, and getting an A is meaningless.

I live in georgia

kawaionigiri 08-08-2009 04:47 AM

it's really harder now x.x
I'm 9th grader now
and my when my mom see my school book she said "is this what middle school student should learn?? I learn in in about 10 or 11 grade for the thing like this"
hahaha yeah funny -____-

Kandierain15 08-08-2009 05:09 AM

umm... my middle school, which was Mount Washington(k-8), when your in 7th grade, you have to do the eighth grade work, then in eighth grade you have to take Alegra 1. Then when you get into high school, (which alot of kids want to go to Walnut Hills or Dater) you have to take alegra 2 in your freshman year.

Does this make sense to people?

Tenchu 08-08-2009 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenpachi11 (Post 758028)
Well...i was looking in workbooks today that had 1-5 math and 6th grade math in it. I found out that 6th grade math is harder now then when i had it.

Do you believe what they teach kids now is harder and better than what they taught us?

I think the standard of public schools is slipping in the west, but rising in the east. Yet the standard of private/expensive schools is rising world wide.

I've seen some "average" kids around the age of 14 and such which don't even know the difference between "their", "there" and "they're". Things like that. It is shocking. English skills in the middle class is definatly falling.

Also, history... well, need I say more? Most schools barely even cover it until you're about 16 or 17, and then it's usually by option.

My father never attended school beyond the age of 16, yet he's got a better knowledge of history than most university graduates. He learned it when he was about 10.

Also, discipline is almost non existant now. It means the kids who don't have self motivation cannot have motivation forced upon them, pretty much gaurenteing they'll have a shit future.

Kandierain15 08-08-2009 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 758120)
I think the standard of public schools is slipping in the west, but rising in the east. Yet the standard of private/expensive schools is rising world wide.

I've seen some "average" kids around the age of 14 and such which don't even know the difference between "their", "there" and "they're". Things like that. It is shocking. English skills in the middle class is definatly falling.

Also, history... well, need I say more? Most schools barely even cover it until you're about 16 or 17, and then it's usually by option.

My father never attended school beyond the age of 16, yet he's got a better knowledge of history than most university graduates. He learned it when he was about 10.

Also, discipline is almost non existant now. It means the kids who don't have self motivation cannot have motivation forced upon them, pretty much gaurenteing they'll have a shit future.

WOW! They started cracking our ohio history, u.s history, and world history on us before high school. I remember, ohio history: 4th grade. U.s. history: 5th grade. World history:6th grade. Then they did world history again in 7th and then u.s history again in 8th. lol. And yeah, I live in the east. cincinnati to be exact. so maybe that's why?

But one thing I can agree on is the English skills. Because my mom always tells me how they absolutly MADE her write in cursive when she was in school. NOw they don't care because you can always just type it and then spell check it. Lazy if I do say so myself.

Kenpachi11 08-08-2009 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 758120)
I think the standard of public schools is slipping in the west, but rising in the east. Yet the standard of private/expensive schools is rising world wide.

I've seen some "average" kids around the age of 14 and such which don't even know the difference between "their", "there" and "they're". Things like that. It is shocking. English skills in the middle class is definatly falling.

Also, history... well, need I say more? Most schools barely even cover it until you're about 16 or 17, and then it's usually by option.

My father never attended school beyond the age of 16, yet he's got a better knowledge of history than most university graduates. He learned it when he was about 10.

Also, discipline is almost non existant now. It means the kids who don't have self motivation cannot have motivation forced upon them, pretty much gaurenteing they'll have a shit future.

In my schools. we have took history everywhere 1st grade to 12th.

Yea discipline is horrible now. Alot of people get arrested at my school for fights or drugs all the time.

Tenchu 08-08-2009 05:50 AM

Maybe there is a difference between Australia and America.

We learned almost no history. Here I am, 22, and having to self educate myself through documentries because school was a waste of time.

Kandierain15 08-08-2009 05:54 AM

I would guess so then? bcuz trust me, if school was a waste of time, I would have dropped out already. =P

Kenpachi11 08-08-2009 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 758129)
Maybe there is a difference between Australia and America.

We learned almost no history. Here I am, 22, and having to self educate myself through documentries because school was a waste of time.

I think there is a difference. does australian schools take tests to graduate? or move onto the next grade?

Tenchu 08-08-2009 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kandierain15 (Post 758131)
I would guess so then? bcuz trust me, if school was a waste of time, I would have dropped out already. =P

Well I did drop out at 14. I went back at 18 (so I'd skipped 4 years, but it didn't matter and I passed all subjects with top marks) because I needed more education for the Infantry.

Tenchu 08-08-2009 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenpachi11 (Post 758133)
I think there is a difference. does australian schools take tests to graduate? or move onto the next grade?

Assesments are done that include the teachers perspective of you for the entire year. There is no single test. I never encountered a student who was held back for being a retard.

At the end of high school, when you're 18, you do your HSC (high school certificate). Very important exams, but the only ones.

After that, you'll either go to a technical college; TAFE. Or an academic University.

There is no College in Australia, where you go stay at the school and have sex with sluts.

Kandierain15 08-08-2009 06:45 AM

oh my... to lose the school yrs from ages 14 to 18? that would basically be high school.... if your were in america... You would lose a lot of education from doing that

Tenchu 08-08-2009 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kandierain15 (Post 758141)
oh my... to lose the school yrs from ages 14 to 18? that would basically be high school.... if your were in america... You would lose a lot of education from doing that

Well, in going back, being good at the subjects mostly depends on how much common sense you have.

noodle 08-08-2009 08:24 AM

In most countries in the world, history isn't considered as important as subjects like Math, English (or whatever the official language of that country is) and Sciences.

At high school (10 - 16), here in England, I had around 13 subjects... There isn't enough time to get any of these subjects taught properly. For history, I think I had 1 or 2 hours a week!

Back to difficulty of subjects... I think in the West, it kinda sucks until you get to education after 16. I remember in Algeria, the Math I covered in the first year of Primary school wasn't covered for another 3 years in England. I was top of my classes in Math without understanding a single word of English...

Tenchu 08-08-2009 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by noodle (Post 758149)
I remember in Algeria, the Math I covered in the first year of Primary school wasn't covered for another 3 years in England. I was top of my classes in Math without understanding a single word of English...

I had the same deal when I was a kid. I moved from a Catholic private school to a public state school. The state school was about 3 years behind in math.

I think it was grade 3 (age 8 - 9) we learned long multiplication. At the state school, they made me do it not until grade 6 (age 11 - 12).

Shanis 08-08-2009 01:22 PM

I would say not. O.K. I'm just 18 and I learn nearly the same things as my little sister an grade 6 but if I see what my father had to learn 30years ago they stuff today is much easier, especially in math cause there are new ways to solve equations^^ But what has gotten harder is that even elementary school students have to learn english and other stuff I learned 3 years later in 5th grade.

SSJup81 08-08-2009 06:20 PM

IMO, school isn't getting harder...it's being dumbed down so that everyone can pass. With NCLB, it's no surprise.
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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 758129)
Maybe there is a difference between Australia and America.

We learned almost no history. Here I am, 22, and having to self educate myself through documentries because school was a waste of time.

I had history classes from 1st grade to 10th...then again, I am in the US so I guess it's just different. It probably depends on the state or city or county too as far as the US is concerned. I don't see how you can go to school and not have history as a major part of your curriculum.

Quailboy 08-08-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kandierain15 (Post 758131)
I would guess so then? bcuz trust me, if school was a waste of time, I would have dropped out already. =P

See, I think it is a waste of time, and have dropped out >.>

thcuteness 08-08-2009 07:14 PM

The school im enrolled in right now is so easy I get bored and fail :/, but other schools I have been too, are ten times harder so yeah I would say education is harder.

Megabyte117 08-08-2009 07:37 PM

I've been enrolled in six schools and I still maintain that education is not what it used to be.

DevilHunter04 08-08-2009 09:28 PM

All they've done is make kids have more math and shit. They started that before I got out of high school. And here in Illinois they're planning to make school year round (like Japan has). Which I think is good, but I wish they did that before I got out of high school. Kids don't need three months off, they don't have anything to do! Where I went to school, in my classes they spent the whole first month reviewing everything we did the year before! It was frustrating as hell.

Though they're chainging things education definitly isn't harder, it just seems that way.

plizman 08-09-2009 01:17 AM

If you are talking about the U.S., no. The standards for graduating high school have gone down and not up in most States.

strawberryshinya 08-10-2009 02:39 PM

in my school the standards in order to pass exams has gotten higher. however the manner in which they teach us has dumbed down. i seriously dont understand how they could do that and hope for our district grades to rise. perhaps they want to see individual determination? they want to see who takes initiative to advance in my school? who knows,but i think thats bull.

Seanus 08-10-2009 05:34 PM

It really depends where. I feel that students are being bombarded with more and more info but most students are like sponges and can absorb it. Still, it should be about quality and not quantity.


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