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RKitagawa 08-14-2009 02:03 PM

Great video MMM. Thanks for posting.
I actually really enjoy researching these theories.
found it really interesting when she said time was created with the big bang.
I don't see how it's possible for us to know that. But she said it pretty confidently, so I'm guessing that theory was proven somehow... or she's not as smart as she thinks she is.

Although time itself is a ridiculously complicated subject. Many people believe that there's no such thing as time, that it's just an illusion, a human concept. I don't think that's true though, just pointing it out.

Salvanas 08-14-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by iPhantom (Post 760868)
And Nyoronin, atheism is not a religion...

It's as much as a religion as all the other religions out there. It's become one, with all the clueless idiots who jump onto the bandwagon these days.

I'm Athesit myself, however, it's become so big, and many of the people are ignorant to the point where it reminds me of a religion.

It's become a fad now, and is actually filled with agnostics who only think they don't believe, but when you ask them in depth, it's clear that they're not sure.

I prefer not to call myself as Atheist, and personally, I would prefer a different term.

I do not believe in a God, however, like many atheists, I do not view religious people as delusional people. Religion shapes people in many ways. In many ways our feeble minds could never imagine.

Enough about Atheism though.

As for the Big Bang theorem, it's definitely interesting, and intriguing. But again, it's quite like atheism these days, it's become huge, and is some sort of fad where people weave little tales and speak about things when they haven't studied in the area.

Another thing I find amazingly interesting, is how the Big Bang and a belief that God did not create the world, is linked.

Here's a quick recap of a discussion with a religious friend.

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Him: What's your belief about God?

Me: Don't believe there is one.

Him: Really? How can you not? Is your faith that weak?

Me: Nothing to do with faith. I simply cannot believe that something that is just... there, can create the world simply with a snap of his hand.

Him: Oh, and so the Big Bang Theory is so much more better, is it?

Me: Who said anything about the Big Bang?

Him: Well... I thought since you don't believe in God that...

Me: That I automatically believe in the Big Bang theory? Don't be an idiot. the Big Bang theory is just that. I do not believe in it, nor do I dis-believe it. Until it has been proven, it is still a theory. Our mind and science is still very insufficient to prove such things as the creation of the world, let alone the universe. We still have at least a few more hundred years before coming close, and who knows what other theories will come up?

Him: But, why do that when you know God created the world?

Me: because even that, is a theory. An old one. But as I said before. It took us this long to get away from God creating the world, to the Big Bang. It'll improve.

DSX 08-14-2009 03:39 PM

I agree with everything Sal said.

MMM 08-14-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RKitagawa (Post 760915)
Great video MMM. Thanks for posting.
I actually really enjoy researching these theories.
found it really interesting when she said time was created with the big bang.
I don't see how it's possible for us to know that. But she said it pretty confidently, so I'm guessing that theory was proven somehow... or she's not as smart as she thinks she is.

Although time itself is a ridiculously complicated subject. Many people believe that there's no such thing as time, that it's just an illusion, a human concept. I don't think that's true though, just pointing it out.

She speaks with confidence, but none of this has been proven. She just doesn't speak like a lawyer saying "allegedly" or "theoretically" every sentence so her points can be made clearly.

RKitagawa 08-14-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Salvanas (Post 760979)


It's as much as a religion as all the other religions out there. It's become one, with all the clueless idiots who jump onto the bandwagon these days......

You sound more.. agnostic than atheist to me. Although agnosticism isn't really a "religion".

A lot of Catholics that I know think the Big Bang works pretty well with the bible. God says let there be light, and then boom... Big Bang occurs. I think this is complete BS, but w/e.

MMM 08-14-2009 03:51 PM

As was stated before, this is not a religious discussion. Those never end well, and I would hate to see this close because people can't not talk about it.

RKitagawa 08-14-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 760986)
As was stated before, this is not a religious discussion. Those never end well, and I would hate to see this close because people can't not talk about it.

au contraire.
You simply can't talk about science without somebody bringing in religion, it just won't happen.
It's always been this way... since like.. Copernicus theorized that the Earth wasn't the center of the universe, you know?

MMM 08-14-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RKitagawa (Post 760995)
au contraire.
You simply can't talk about science without somebody bringing in religion, it just won't happen.
It's always been this way... since like.. Copernicus theorized that the Earth wasn't the center of the universe, you know?

Except that religious discussions are against the rules because they always end up poorly, so I will kindly ask that the religious part of the discussion be curbed.

packetpirate 08-14-2009 04:48 PM

It seems like she's just trying to get some publicity by reiterating an already established theory...

MMM 08-14-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by packetpirate (Post 761007)
It seems like she's just trying to get some publicity by reiterating an already established theory...

She is telling the basics of Big Bang theory. Nothing more, nothing less. It is interesting you would guess she participated in the video for personal gain.


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