Teen Rights?
 

Do you feel like you don't have enough rights as a teen? Do feel as you have been treated unfairly at school or anywhere? Have you ever been stripped search because of un-fair drug accusations? Or been denied freedom of speech? What your opinion on teen rights, what rights do you think you or they withheld, do you think its fair or un-fair the way teens are treated at school or anywhere else? I want honest opinions and that if its ok with you do i have permission to use your post in my school report?

Thank you.

When you sign up for school you are pretty much giving away your rights while you're there, last year I was told "You're in school, what you think dosen't matter, I'm the teacher, not you" So, yes, we are stripped of our rights while in school.
What class is this for may I ask?

Its for my English Class and wow your teacher actually said that 0.0

Yeah, I nearly had him fired for it.

lol do you mine if i quote you in my report? it would work great for my opening sentence.

To me it doesn't matter if our rights are stripped away at school. I mean, most teachers won't do anything to take advantage of you. :P

I'm pretty sure it's legal to lose your rights as a student in elemntary through high school

Most teachers may not but that doesn't mean some will not recently there has been a huge problem of yelling at my school, there a limit of how much someone should be able to get into your face especially a teacher.

teen rights
 

I find its mostly who you are dealing with. Like, my parents are old-fashioned, and don't believe that teens should have the same...i dunno, like what the right term would be...i guess its sort of like they dont believe that what teens say is as important or reliable as what adults say. Like, maybe they think that you should have to work your way up to have the same status as adults, its not just handed to you. And in some weird way, as frustrating as that can be, i kind of agree. I mean the teacher had no right to say that to you, to be sure. But i often see other teens getting an overinflated ego, so i basically just think that if you want to act like a big person, you should be willing and able to stand alone and support yourself. Otherwise, i just let adults drone on about their ideals, and if i don't agree, i just won't say anything. If they try to make me agree, and get upset if i dont, then thats really the only time that i would stand up to them.

I have never had any problems with rights as a teen.

Right now I have the same right as every adult, because I am suppose to be an adult now that I am 18. Even though I don't really feel like one while in school though.

Yeah, go for it. Make sure I get a copy when its done

I'm sure a lot of you young ones probably don't realize the rights you have... which is pretty much total freedom.

Someone telling you that you have to do something, it doesn't mean you have to. No one can tell you what to do aside your parents and police officers, pretty much. That includes teachers.

I remember when I was 14, just before I quit school. My mother got a new boyfriend. He used to be a teacher who dealt with "problem" children, rebels. Before that, he was a herion junkie. So he was pretty cool.

I told him the bullshit that was going on at my school, he just laughed and told me to ignore the stupid teachers and tell them I don't have to listen to them.

Main problem was I kept getting harassed for not wearing school uniform. Turns out, in Australia, it isn't compulsory. Diversity laws protect you, and you're allowed to wear whatever you want. Also, detentions are illegal; you're required by law to have a break from work every few hours or whatnot, anyway. They can't expel or suspend you, either; no one has the right to refuse a child a public education (of course, if you get expelled for violence, it may be a different case if you're considered a threat to others).

Everything teachers say is optional. You don't have to do it. They just try and make you coz kids are dumb.

Gottas watch those cops, as well. If you do get in shit when you know you've done something wrong, never answer any questions until both your parents and lawyer are present; the only reason they ask you questions is because they want to get it in quick on tape before the lawyer gets here so they can use it against you. They'll never ask you any questions without the intention of using them against you, so just tell them to fu*k off until lawyer arrives.

I am curious as to what "rights" you are talking about.

Most of the times when a right is taken away from a student it is actually given the other students around him the "right" to go to school in a safe environment, which is the number one priority for many schools and teachers.

Here is a good example:

More children from Dove World Outreach Center sent home for wearing Islam is of the Devil shirts | Gainesville.com | The Gainesville Sun | Gainesville, FL

In Florida some students want to wear shirts that say "Islam is from the Devil" in big letters. The schools sent them home. They say "You have taken away my freedom of speech". So was the school taking away rights, or protecting the rights of non-Christian students to be educated in a safe environment?

There are two sides to every story.

Well i was kinda of leaving up what do think rights are to you, cause well im not really sure, im just doing this for the grade i dont really care >.> But yeah your right there are two sides to every story.

ok shall do ^^

I think that is an important part of your essay. It is easy to say "you are trampling on my rights" but if people can't say what rights they have that were trampled, it seems a little like crying "wolf".

I am sure if you are just doing it for the grade and don't really care that will reflect on your essay and in your grade. You have tapped into an interesting topic, so care, and do it for the best grade you can get.

I think if your approach is "teen rights are trampled by adults" then you are only telling half the story. But I bet your teacher would be impressed if you also had a teacher's side of the story (there are many teachers and former teachers here, including me). I think that article I posted is a good example of two sides having passionate arguments that seem right to both of them.

i get beat up at school ant the teachers do not pay attention they don't care what they do to me

Lol, sorry but nobody is gonna help you there. Has happened many times at my school. In the end you have to fight them back.

Thinking back on my teen years (okay that was only a few years ago), I never had a "rights" problem. I was perhaps mature for my age, but I understood why certain things were the way they were. Whether it was for my safety or in order to keep the crazy teens in line :D .

However, from my point of view now, I find that teens may be getting a little too many rights... They are allowed to act more unruly while adults are having more rights to deal with them taken away.

The first step that I think would benefit us all is to let the teens have the rights to do more, but give them adult consequences too. When I was 13-19, I already knew how to exploit my youth. And I saw those that did. I don't like government treating teens like retards not capable of thinking.

I saw this too... it really pissed me off. I myself never was in a group to be picked on, but I would definitely voice my opinion to any bullies outright... but I was visibly no pushover either...

Yeah your right now i think i shall try harder ^^

Alrightie this might seem off topic but I swear it isn't [its just boring!] XD

I'm a few months away from turning 20, and I'm in college now...about two three years ago I was a Junior in High School and I was sexually assaulted in the middle of class by a notorious little perv...many girls had reported him but they were brushed off. When he grabbed me I lost my temper and stabbed him with my pen [it was a light wound unfortunately], guess who got in trouble?

That's right I did.

The teacher moved him and told me to stop being 'over-dramatic' and wouldn't let me leave the class to report him. And refused to let me us my cell phone to call the police, saying she'd take it and she'd report me for assaulting and harming him!

He started texting me explicit messages, right in front of the teacher!

I told my friend what happened and the next day she reported him anonymously and they pulled me out of class to talk to me. At first they were 'blah' and didn't care much, acting like I was female and I asked for it. To make matters worse he was trying to accuse and press charges on me for stabbing him!

I requested I talk to my mother and told her what they were doing and she called the school threatening to report them to the School Board and call the police herself. Grumbling and bitching they FINALLY called the police.

Three cops later they had it all sorted out and they saw the texts and they charged him with sexual assault and he was suspended for a whole week, that's it they didn't arrest him or anything.

A dean then proceeded to suspend me for three days for presenting my cell phone to the police because it was already turned on!

My mother got into a bloody war with the school and at the end of it a Dean was fired, the whole school was retrained to handle sexual assault cases by an extremely angry Victims Advocate of the state [who called and threatened my principal with legal action if he didn't take back the suspension] and a cop [who witnessed the suspension and said he had nothing to do with it] was in deep sh*t.

So yes, I believe I was treated unfairly :rolleyes: the girls that he'd assaulted before also stepped forward again and they, once again, blew them off. He plead guilty got a slap on the wrist and a mark on his record and I'm left the "scars".

I'm not the type of woman to take shit laying down no matter how bad it hurts or scares me :vsign:

I doubt this helps any, but yes I do think teens aren't taken very seriously. If it does help then, yay! Feel free to do whatever you will with it.

But people got fired so there was some justice in the end.

Then that's not freedom of speech. If you can't wear a T-shirt saying what you want...

Yes after my mother and a higher power got involved. They didn't even believe me when I reported it. I don't consider that justice at all, that's them scrambling to cover up a mistake before they get sued.

So you think people should be allowed to wear anti-Muslim t-shirts at elementary schools as well as high schools? I doubt that you do.

No "right" goes to infinity.

Without knowing what the boy did to you it is hard for me to create an opinion. I am not saying "tell us exactly what he did" but like I said earlier, there are two sides to every story.

If the people who did you injustice were fired, I am not sure why you don't consider that justice "at all".

i agree... we have our rights, but to a certain degree. Im 17 and im treated just the same as an adult. maybe its a maturity factor?

Rights?.... What are these... 'rights' you speak of? o.o'
Do you mean the freedom to express individuality and to freely communicate personal thoughts and ideas? As in the 1sth Amendment of the constitution?
Or the right to bear arms? As interpreted in Family Guy as the right to bear arms?
Or what of the 4th amendment? Protection from searches, arrests, etc. w/o probable cause? x.x''
And the 5th amendment? The right to a fair trial? :3
Hmm.. never heard :3
Never knew such things existed~
Always figured that 'the man' always did as he pleases and that all those inferior were to bend to his every whim >.>'''
Never have I fathomed such possibilities >.>''
Atleast not in High School o.o'
=P

But enough of this one's silliness~
I'm a fickle bastard :3
I abuse whatever rights come my way to my own benefit.
I hide behind the 1st amendment when I choose to~ yet shut others up by expressing offense to their opinions.
I forbid anyone to search me for the lack of a probable cause~ Yet I always find a reason to interrogate others~ and when no reason exists~ I make on up ^_^
A fair trial?~ Of course :3 I always demand a fair trial~ for myself ^_^
But for others~ there's no such thing as fairness~ Being fair is to drop my testament in a resolution so absolute that a sane person would find it impossiblly illogical and absurdly unreasonable~
Haha~ I love this system~ So many ways to abuse it <3

o.o'
Looks like I ended up being silly anyway =P
Guess I don't take rights all to seriously because they're never properly enforced as everyone has his/her own interpretation >.>''

All I see here is people whining about how their rights are being taken away, but does any teen here exactly KNOWS what his/hers rights are?

I am personally more amused by everyone rambling on about rights, but without realizing that rights and responsibilities go hand in hand. You can`t have one without the other. It seems like everyone wants all these rights without having to actually take any responsibility for them. If people display an inability to handle responsibility (as a pretty huge chunk of the teenage population does...) it`s going to be a lot harder to convince people that you should have all these rights.

And then, of course, people who don`t even really know what rights they should have and what rights they do have...

Yes. I feel like in a lot of cultures, ageism isn't taken seriously - but it's definitely a problem. Children and teenagers are often taken advantage of and not thought of as human beings by adults. Adults like to believe that, because they're older, they automatically know what's best.

Not true.

I have met plenty of mature people who happen to be younger - mature people who aren't as ignorant as many of the adults I know. It's something that's generally overlooked, I think. But it can become a problem when - for example - a younger student is strip-searched and is forced to take off her underwear.

Until you are old enough to live on your own and pay your bills, you only have the rights your parents allow. Even after moving out you realize that all the rights listed on paper (The Constitution) mean little unless you are doing what society in general allows you. Rights usually mean nothing unless you are arrested. Criminals have more rights than us law abiding people.

ugh. Fifth grade(ok so i wasn't tecnically a teen yet but still...) i had a boy sexually harass me at my school. You know what they did? They COVERED it up so the school's name wouldn't be trashed. The only punishment he got was a detension. One detention. That's completly unfair to me and the other girl he did it to.

Teachers sometimes just want to teach us, (and sometimes they don't even do that right) and be done. They don't realize that school is supposed to be a safe envirement for kids to learn, not an envirement where kids get beat up and harassed. It's wrong and no one deserves that.

Again there are always two sides to every story.

In my state two boys were arrested and expelled for sexual harassment. That sounds like a fair sentence until you find out the boys were 10 and the sexual harassment was patting two girls on the butt as they ran down the hall, much like a coach does to his players.

Eventually the charges were dropped, and the boys learned an important lesson.

Ya the guy was about to graduate from eighth grade.... So practically a high schooler. Not really a ten-year old. But trust me, it was much worse than a "Pat on the butt"

I have heard that there are really three sides to a story...Your side, my side and the truth.

Maturity is partly about life experiance and how you apply them, some teens do well at that..but most, haveing few experiances, don't. It's why they are "emmature".

That's wrong to me.

I cannot see anything wrong with a ten year old boy or girl touching each other on the bum.

We used to experiement big time at school from that age and it was fun on all sides.

I don't think "sexual harrassment" was such a big issue during that time.

My point is "sexual harassment" can be words, a pat on the butt or everything including rape. It is a very vague phrase.

It's lawyer double talk, they like useing terms and phrases that are so vague, that you could make them mean anything. Clarity is important when interacting with other people and some of these laws as written, just hinder that.

Teen Rights

“When you sign up for school you are pretty much giving away your rights while you're there, last year I was told "You're in school, what you think doesn’t matter, I'm the teacher, not you" So, yes, we are stripped of our rights while in school.”
–Quailboy (age 16)
I have decided to take a totally different approach with my report on teen rights and decided to gather other people’s opinion and my own analysis it and generalize it in the best way possible, without making it too stereotypical. To achieve that I didn’t only want my own opinion and other teens but adults as well. Most of you are wondering why I have quoted that statement by Quailboy, my reason for doing this is because I believe most of us teens believe this is how school is and or have heard or have been told something like this before. What thinking about this from a adult point of view isn’t this statement someone what true. While we are in school it’s not what we want, it’s not what matters to us, it’s what the teacher wants. But here another good statement said by another user.
“As a human, you have rights and duties. Same goes to school; the only difference is that the teacher is "your boss". But that doesn't mean he’s superior to you in terms of rights. If you feel that shes being unfair to you, you have the right to reply back. H***l i did that allot!”
-JasonTakesi (age mystery)
This statement is also correct your teacher isn’t superior to you but he or she is “your boss” for about the next 8 hours. But as a human begin you do have the rights if feeling treated unfair or poorly to voice your opinion. But in my own opinion I think people take advantage of that especially us teenagers. I have watched over the past 2 years of my begin in school recently, students ageing with teachers feeling that they are beginning treated unjust. But there a thin line between what is actually unjust and what you simple feel is unfair. Some people don’t feel this way or have any problems at all thought like this user.
“I find it’s mostly who you are dealing with. Like, my parents are old-fashioned, and don't believe that teens should have the same...i dunno, like what the right term would be...i guess its sort of like they don’t believe that what teens say is as important or reliable as what adults say.”
-mangafreak (age unknown)
And with this statement I absolutely agree with most of what people of my own age has no relevance when it comes to politics, economy, and etc. But does that really mean that our opinions are not valuable or valid? Does everything said need to have a deeper substance and a significant understanding? I feel as though we aren’t allowed to speak freely not just at school but anywhere cause, adults feel as thought are opinion are to simple minded not complex and does not carry any reference. But I feel as though I’m a being to stereotypical and generalizing adults as a whole and its not say that all adults feel such way although at time it’s the perception we receive. Like what this user said.
“Yes. I feel like in a lot of cultures, ageism isn't taken seriously - but it's definitely a problem. Children and teenagers are often taken advantage of and not thought of as human beings by adults. Adults like to believe that, because they're older, they automatically know what's best.

Not true.

I have met plenty of mature people who happen to be younger - mature people who aren't as ignorant as many of the adults I know. It's something that's generally overlooked, I think. But it can become a problem when - for example - a younger student is strip-searched and is forced to take off her underwear.”
-Mercedesjin (age 19)
Striped searching in a unlawful violation in my opinion and I think its abused, schools should use warrants although I highly doubt most of them do before conducting a search which is against the law and usually led’s to court. Which to my surprise that these cases don’t make it to the news, is it unimportant that a middle or highschooler teen and pre-teen gets unfair stripped searched for item that he or she does not have? And why are cases like these when teens rights are being demined and violated aren’t cases like these more televised? Do it not matter to society our rights? And what do teachers do when they see students get bullied or treated poorly by another student?
“Some teens get treated unfair for no reason like when I get beat up when the teacher is in the room and they don’t do anything it is wrong that some are treated with respect while others are just mistreated”
-Kyle (age 17)
And I don’t doubt that stuff like this happens often in schools I have heard many stories of student being bullied and beat up in front of teachers and them turning their head in the other direction, but there is always the possibility that a teacher did not notice what was going but they also could have simple not care. I personally feel like some teachers don’t care as long as they aren’t threaten or their name isn’t tarnished. But as said by this user.

“ I have heard that there are really three sides to a story...Your side, my side and the truth.

Maturity is partly about life experience and how you apply them, some teens do well at that..But most, having few experiences, don't. It's why they are "immature".”
-Ryzorian (age unknown)
And with that said that probably how the world is there my story, your story and the truth of fact. With age they say comes wisdom will others are just born wise. Which sometimes seem to be the deciding case in these situations, and most defiantly when it comes to teen rights, that we don’t seem to have many rights do to many reason such as maturity, reasoning, etc. Some adults believe that we have maturity to own rights while others believe we have a lot of growing up to do, that’s the way society will be for awhile unless we attempt to change this and get the respect that most of deserve.



Well i finished my report and here it is