US Regulation of Flavored Tobacco
 

University Chronicle - Tobacco laws to change in October


No More Flavored Cigarettes|ABC 13

Regulating flavored tobacco because it's more attractive to youths?
Yet not banning the highest selling flavored cigarette, Menthols?
In high school everyone I knew that smoked, smoked menthols, and no other flavored tobacco products.
I think it's outrageous. If anything Obama should make it harder for youths to get cigarettes in general, not make even adults suffer.

What do you think?

I suspect that in time they will tell you when you can get up, what you can eat and when you have to go to bed.

Is driving not also appealing to youths, yet harmful because youth have the highest percentage of accidents?
I sense the driving age will be upped in the future as well.


Really, 'Clove cigarettes represent less than 1% of cigarettes sold in the United States'. It's usually adults I know that smoke cloves. If only 1% of the population in the United States smokes them, then why ban them? It's rubbish.
I don't like how this situation is so under the radar.

Another Obama-bashing thread. Doesn't *Japan* Forum have enough of them already?

I for one don't even like cigarettes! But why exclude one brand or type if one is going to be readily available? They kids that prefer the flavored brand is just going to switch to the more available brand.

Not an Obama bashing thread at all.
It's a matter that will take in effect in less than a week.
It's an open discussion, it has more to do with the principle of it than it does Obama.

Oh dear, I don't think anyone is bashing our current El Presidente, just commenting on his choices, just like we did with every single pres before him.

I agree. If youth are that hung-up on smoking to the point where it has to be regulated, then they'll continue to smoke, therefore it isn't really helping anyone is it?

Owners of tobacco shops in my area are very upset due to the fact that they have to get rid of so much of their stock. I really don't think this action is going to help our economy at all.

Fully agreed JayT, this isn't solving anything, he really should be focusing on things that matter, it almost seems like he is trying too hard to win the people over.

Thank you. I just think it's funny, considering he smokes himself.
Something like this would not happen in Japan.
I'm eager to hear what the rest of the members think about it.

Yeah *looks at the empty room* where is everybody?

You think it's outrageous, really?
Lol, if anything, it's strange/absurd. It is also harmless, so yeah. :rolleyes:

True, it doesn't mean any harm, but it's a waste of time none-the-less.

Maybe absurd is the right word for it.
Isn't there other things he should be worrying about?
It's really a petty thing, yet It does upset a lot of smokers and shop keepers.

Yes, it can't be any clearer, he should be worrying about other things than kids smoking, I feel that's the most that can be said about this topic.

I personally think this is a stab at the Marijuana smoking community.

“A cigarette or any of its component parts (including the tobacco, filter, or paper) shall not contain, as a constituent (including a smoke constituent) or additive, an artificial or natural flavor (other than tobacco or menthol) or an herb or spice, including strawberry, grape, orange, clove, cinnamon, pineapple, vanilla, coconut, licorice, cocoa, chocolate, cherry, or coffee, that is a characterizing flavor of the tobacco product or tobacco smoke.”

Tobacco companies like Philly and Swisher have no doubt profited for years from the illegal marijuana industry. Marijuana users commonly purchase legal cigars to empty the tobacco and refill with marijuana. Many other tobacco companies produce “blunt wraps” which do not contain any tobacco making the rolling process easier. The “unflavored” types of these products are still legal under the new law, however the various flavors are usually preferred by most marijuana users.

It is unclear if marijuana smokers were specifically targeted under this bill or when these popular products will be pulled from stores. It is also unclear if the thousands or millions of marijuana users effected will be stocking up on these products because of the tendency for blunts to become stale after long periods of storage.

Aha! so we have a fresh topic! thank you! Well, if that was the case, it would be a very indirect stab, why not get rid of other smoking apparatuses? such as but not limited to, water pipes, pipes, dug outs, etc?

Well it could be a "kill two birds with one stone" tactic.

I'm just speculating, though.

Interesting. This is indeed a HUGE change. I was impressed by the part where the FDA can bar tobacco companies from advertising. That's pretty big.

Something I want to point out and insert into the discussion is that the tobacco industry is one of the largest driving forces of America's economy. What do you guys all think the ramifications will be? Or do you not feel that the tobacco industry plays that big a role?

Also in my own personal interest, I wonder what this means for hookah (shisha), which is 90% molasses and only 10% tobacco.

This is true, I feel as if there is something more behind it though, who wants to make a new govt conspiracy with me! any takers?!? :D

the tobacco industry is one of the foundation stones of america, and its influence is absolutely massive. the only way obama got this to pass is because of the small numbers you guys have stated,... ie the companies wont lose any sleep over it.

but at the same time obama looks like he is doing something.

the question is, now that the tobacco companies have given him a deal, what is the price going to be?

oh and shisha was studied by some egyptian doctors and one head was found to contain the equivalent tar content of 200 cigarettes despite having less tobacco. but then again egypt has a big ciggie industry too so,....

The person at my local shop said no, since it's mostly flavored syrup.
I'm happy people are sharing their opinions on this though.



I agree that something fishy is up, like stated.
Companies like Swisher and such are going to have problems,
but companies like Marlboro or Camel that don't have any flavored products will flourish thanks to this new rule.

Yeah, many of which are based in the US >_>

Yeah I saw that too. Another group of researchers completely debunked it. If the shisha was BURNED, yes, maybe that might be true, but when smoking it properly with a hookah, it is instead HEATED, meaning there is zero tar content. Semantics, right? :D

Interesting though, since Egypt is one of the countries where shisha is very widely smoked.

Egypt is badass,
almost every cafe there offers shisha.
Drink tea, smoke and play backgammon.
Thats the Egyptian way!

cool i had no idea it was debunked.

having said that, the day after a shisha night my throat feels absolutely horrible.

and i smoke a pack a day.

perhaps they prep the shisha differently from the middle east, cos down there it definately does burn to a certain degree.

In regards to the driving thing...that happens every year in scattered states with or without the national government's involvement. I was so p.o.'d when I finally hit 15 only to have the age for a permit go up 5 days before my birthday. xD That was nearly a decade ago, though.:rolleyes:

This is just Obama's response to criticism of his own smoking addiction.

Why is it always about Obama? He signed a bill that Congress passed. THAT CONGRESS PASSED. Would you have expected him to VETO it? C'mon, people. Get real.

Clove cigarettes are definitely smoke more by younger people than older people. I have never seen someone over the age of 25 smoke a clove. Flavored tobaccos are absolutely marketed toward younger people. Camel makes "tropical" cigarettes in the summer...who do you think they are trying to get to buy those, 55-year-old Joe the Trucker who has been smoking the same cigs for 30+ years or the new smoker who hasn't found her exact taste yet...or maybe has never smoked? These are "gateway" cigarettes, and the new law is the right thing to do.

Why would I reply to:


I was obviously creating a 'conspiracy' -- a sarcastic reply to the Obama-bashing, as of late


As I stated before, what I was saying was purely speculation. Don't need to get all hot and bothered.

It does sound ridiculous to make one type illegal though it dose seem that more young people smoke flavored cigarrets so it could possibly help to prevent new smokers from picking up the habit.

Exactly. There is no "government conspiracy" there, just what is probably a smart law.

I think the main reason is that the addition of flavors in cigeretts is considered to be targeting kids. Which makes sense to me.

i have no opinion on this matter...*lights a cigarette*.....none at all