Honestly, I strongly suspect him being the first American of African decent becomeing president, is why he won the award, that itself is a major breakthrough.
SSJup81
10-12-2009 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryzorian
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Honestly, I strongly suspect him being the first American of African decent becomeing president, is why he won the award, that itself is a major breakthrough.
I think I'd agree with that more if this award was based on America alone, but it's an international thing. They gave reasons as to why they felt he deserved it, some of which seems to include how he's trying hard to strengthen our ties internationally (and this was before he won the election) and help get rid of the "bully" stigma that America has and the fact that he's a strong promoter of world peace. We just have to go with that.
Ryzorian
10-13-2009 01:53 AM
I don't know about that aspect, the nomination itself came 11 days after he was inaugerated for heavens sake. Nor have his base policies changed much over Bush's..particularly on the terror war.
MMM
10-13-2009 05:33 AM
I realize that 11 minutes is 10 minutes and 40 seconds longer than most of you will be willing to spend on a YouTube video, but this offers a perspective that some of you may not have heard.
Rachel Maddow is not a journalist pretending to be unbiased, but is a left-wing talk show host, just to make that clear. Regardless, she brings some perspective we haven't seen here.
YoshimiTheEthereal
10-13-2009 05:49 AM
Well, if I'm not mistaken, the vote for him to get the Nobel Peace Prize had to be in in January '09, so he either wasn't even in office yet or just got there when people were voting for him to get it. How is that possible? He didn't do anything!
MMM
10-13-2009 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by YoshimiTheEthereal
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Well, if I'm not mistaken, the vote for him to get the Nobel Peace Prize had to be in in January '09, so he either wasn't even in office yet or just got there when people were voting for him to get it. How is that possible? He didn't do anything!
I can see you watched the video.
Barone1551
10-13-2009 06:12 AM
Great video MMM. Everyone in this topic needs to watch it before making further comments.
Aether
10-13-2009 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MMM
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I realize that 11 minutes is 10 minutes and 40 seconds longer than most of you will be willing to spend on a YouTube video, but this offers a perspective that some of you may not have heard.
Rachel Maddow is not a journalist pretending to be unbiased, but is a left-wing talk show host, just to make that clear. Regardless, she brings some perspective we haven't seen here.
It is always nice to see things from a different perspective. To me, I believe Obama handled things well. He recognized that while he does not put himself at the same level of so many great figures who won the Nobel Peace Prize in their search for peace, he understands that the Nobel Peace Prize can also be a way to show support for a cause, and in that regard, he accepted the award.
Another thing I would like to comment on are the clips in the video of people cheering and celebrating the Olympics not being in America. I mean seriously, having the Olympics being in America would have been a great honor, and I can't believe how many people were opposed to it simply because Obama supported it. I supported having the Olympics in America not because Obama did but because I did. And I believe those who opposed having the Olympics in America should have had reasons other than just trying to oppose Obama.
In any case, I have to agree with Rachel Maddow's closing words. America should be happy that our president received such an award.
MMM
10-13-2009 07:38 AM
Although only a small majority of Chicagoans wanted the Olympics in Chicago (which is common for potential host cities) the vast majority of Americans supported the Olympics being held in the US in 2016.
noodle
10-13-2009 09:03 AM
I'm confused, MMM... What was the purpose of that video? I'm afraid a video like that will only reignite negatives stereotypes foreigners had against Americans... Such as, Americans are stupid... They elected an idiot twice and now they're complaining about a decent president!
