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burkhartdesu 11-10-2009 10:15 AM

Japan $5 billion aid to Afghanistan
 
BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Japan to boost aid to Afghanistan


Japan's government has pledged $5bn (£3bn) in new aid to Afghanistan over the next five years.



Looks like the new Japanese government is showing they are still a prominent ally in America's war on "terror".


I'm not very familiar with Japanese politics. Is this big news in Japan?



Japan's government has been working on a plan to offer more aid to Afghanistan since announcing it would end a mission by the Maritime Self Defence Force to supply fuel to assist US-led operations in the country.

Now there is a figure - $5bn (£3bn) over the next five years.

It is likely to be used for job training, helping former Taliban fighters to reintegrate with society, and for agriculture and infrastructure development.

Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama is expected to discuss details of the scheme with President Obama when he visits Japan on Friday.

Mr Hatoyama took power in September after winning a landslide in a general election which ended more than half a century of almost unbroken power for the conservative Liberal Democratic Party.

His Democratic Party of Japan wants a more equal relationship with the United States.

burkhartdesu 11-11-2009 08:24 AM

Really? No commentary? :confused:

MMM 11-11-2009 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 782183)
Really? No commentary? :confused:

Nice bump.

What does Japan putting money into building schools and hospitals have to do with the "war on terror"?

Sangetsu 11-11-2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 782184)
Nice bump.

What does Japan putting money into building schools and hospitals have to do with the "war on terror"?

Because building these things will help stabilize Afghan society, hopefully helping to prevent the previous lawlessness which allowed Afghanistan to become the "boot camp" of Islamic terrorists.

The most successful wars are not fought on the battlefield.

pumpum 11-11-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sangetsu (Post 782204)
Because building these things will help stabilize Afghan society, hopefully helping to prevent the previous lawlessness which allowed Afghanistan to become the "boot camp" of Islamic terrorists.

The most successful wars are not fought on the battlefield.

this money wont do jack all - its just pledged for the sake of pledging or building roads for the US military.

Sinestra 11-11-2009 03:30 PM

I was told the new gov wants to stop the refueling missions they have going in the Indian ocean. So they are trying to compromise with the US by pledging this money to help the Afghans.

Ryzorian 11-12-2009 03:00 AM

It's all politics anyway.

clintjm 11-12-2009 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinestra (Post 782245)
I was told the new gov wants to stop the refueling missions they have going in the Indian ocean. So they are trying to compromise with the US by pledging this money to help the Afghans.

indeed... and Tokyo's Afghan aid will help ease the tension over bilateral security issues, such as U.S. military bases in Okinawa and reducing Japan's financial assistance to some 48K U.S. troops there.

Yes... as mentioned below... all politics.

MMM 11-12-2009 04:16 AM

First world countries have been giving billions in aid to second and third world countries for decades. It's kind of like how rich people are forced into giving to charity every year because other rich people do it.

I am not seeing what the big deal burkhart is looking for.

burkhartdesu 11-14-2009 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 782353)
I am not seeing what the big deal burkhart is looking for.

It's hilarious and somewhat offensive that you assume I'm searching for some sort of controversy in this -- I simply mentioned the news, and was curious to see if it was something of interest in Japan or elsewhere (or if the Japanese are even aware).


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What does Japan putting money into building schools and hospitals have to do with the "war on terror"?

Schools and hospitals? Pretty dramatic, MMM.

ozkai 11-14-2009 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 782184)
Nice bump.

What does Japan putting money into building schools and hospitals have to do with the "war on terror"?

It's a case of "winning" the trust of the locals;)

ozkai 11-14-2009 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 782055)
BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Japan to boost aid to Afghanistan


Japan's government has pledged $5bn (£3bn) in new aid to Afghanistan over the next five years.


Looks like the new Japanese government is showing they are still a prominent ally in America's war on "terror".


I'm not very familiar with Japanese politics. Is this big news in Japan?



Definitely good for Japan's image in the outside world, not so sure about the Japanese.

trunker 11-14-2009 03:15 AM

hasnt really been big news here.

but knowing how these aid packages work, a big chunk of that cash will make it back to japan since in many cases one of the conditions will be that japanese companies are chosen for projects paid for by the aid.

everyone does it everywhere all the way back to WW2.

it kills 2 birds with one stone,....

1-hey look world we're nice peoples
2-hey look corporate japan, we may say we want to stop spending but we've found a nice loophole that you guys are familiar with, so keep those personal gifts coming :D .

its just a small start i think, besides, $5bill wont get you much these days, especially not on the hearts and minds market.

burkhartdesu 11-14-2009 03:36 AM

Interesting comments.


On a more personal note, Barack Obama was in Anchorage (next to my town) yesterday on his way to Japan. He met briefly with troops at Elmendorf Air Force Base... that was pretty big news locally. :D



Obama thanks troops at Alaska's Elmendorf Air Force Base - Politics AP - MiamiHerald.com

Obama, in Japan, vows Afghanistan decision 'soon' - washingtonpost.com

ozkai 11-14-2009 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 782691)
Interesting comments.


On a more personal note, Barack Obama was in Anchorage (next to my town) yesterday on his way to Japan. He met briefly with troops at Elmendorf Air Force Base... that was pretty big news locally. :D



Obama thanks troops at Alaska's Elmendorf Air Force Base - Politics AP - MiamiHerald.com

Obama, in Japan, vows Afghanistan decision 'soon' - washingtonpost.com

I was reading about his visit on BBC. It's good to see that the US will maintain the bases.

komitsuki 11-15-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 782346)
It's all politics anyway.

Speaking of politics, South Korea will send troops to Afghanistan soon. It's a nice opportunity to prosecute pro-American politicians in Seoul next year.

MMM 11-15-2009 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 782649)
It's hilarious and somewhat offensive that you assume I'm searching for some sort of controversy in this -- I simply mentioned the news, and was curious to see if it was something of interest in Japan or elsewhere (or if the Japanese are even aware).





Schools and hospitals? Pretty dramatic, MMM.

Actually I have no idea what you are searching for.

burkhartdesu 11-15-2009 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 782839)
Actually I have no idea what you are searching for.


Quote:

I simply mentioned the news, and was curious to see if it was something of interest in Japan or elsewhere (or if the Japanese are even aware)

... You're kind of a bully, MMM

MMM 11-15-2009 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 782862)
... You're kind of a bully, MMM

But when no one responded you bumped it.

It seemed like you had something you were trying to say, and I was trying to figure it out. I am not sure how that is bullying, but I will not post in this thread again, no worries.


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