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Tenchu 11-19-2009 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Barone1551 (Post 783688)
But there hasn't been anything in marijuana to be addictive. That is the point many are trying to state. This is true, marijuana itself is not addictive. You cant say it is addictive when it is not. People have addictive personalities, they get addicted to things it happens. People are addicted to porn and gambling, but theses things are not in themselves addictive. Its the person who enjoys it so much that they become addicted to it. This is the same for marijuana. You cant blame the product for that, just the people using it.

Weed is the single most addictive thing I've ever been exposed to.

It does not cause physical craving, like tobacco. It effects you mentally, and you require it for shelter. It's extremely addictive, especially for people who're having a tough time in another aspect of their life and are looking for an escape route.

Tenchu 11-19-2009 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 783693)
Sure, smoking is inherently bad... But I'm saying you can eat it, drink it, and vaporize it -- yet you ignore these facts. Are you saying THC itself is bad for you health? Because that's just not true.

Well, next time you're in Thailand, hit me up. You can bake me some hash cookies and I'll try them out. I would not mind to.

The reality is, the best and easiest way will always be to smoke it. I doubt that will ever go out of fashion.

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 783693)
Marijuana is PROVEN to have MEDICAL BENEFITS (your argument to the contrary is flat out ignorance)

Yeah, and so does herion. But we're not really talking about pain relief, here; we're talking about it's usage in general.

burkhartdesu 11-19-2009 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 783695)
Well, next time you're in Thailand, hit me up. You can bake me some hash cookies and I'll try them out. I would not mind to.

The reality is, the best and easiest way will always be to smoke it. I doubt that will ever go out of fashion.

Yeah, and so does herion. But we're not really talking about pain relief, here; we're talking about it's usage in general.



Comparing Marijuana to Heroin just proves that you have no grasp on what it is you're arguing.

Tenchu 11-19-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 783697)
Comparing Marijuana to Heroin just proves that you have no grasp on what it is you're arguing.

I wasn't compairing them. So who has no grasp?

I was just showing medicinal use and street use are very different things, and not relevant here.

Barone1551 11-19-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 783694)
Weed is the single most addictive thing I've ever been exposed to.

It does not cause physical craving, like tobacco. It effects you mentally, and you require it for shelter. It's extremely addictive, especially for people who're having a tough time in another aspect of their life and are looking for an escape route.

But this is due to the person. Not the substance. You could say the same for almost anything. If someone likes it enough they will become addicted. Food, gambling, video games, porn, pop, they all fall under the same conditions you listed. Its the persons personality.

Tenchu 11-19-2009 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshAussie (Post 783698)
Most people who smoke marijuana smoke it only occasionally. A small minority of Americans - less than 1 percent - smoke marijuana on a daily basis. An even smaller minority develop a dependence on marijuana. Some people who smoke marijuana heavily and frequently stop without difficulty. Others seek help from drug treatment professionals. Marijuana does not cause physical dependence. If people experience withdrawal symptoms at all, they are remarkably mild.

What is the point of this? Just because most people can get away with something, it does not mean we should not implement laws for the protection of minorities.

Mental dependance is much worse than physical dependance.

Stop posting them stupid referances. No one gives a damn where you copy and paste from. It brings nothing to your view.

Tenchu 11-19-2009 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Barone1551 (Post 783707)
But this is due to the person. Not the substance. You could say the same for almost anything. If someone likes it enough they will become addicted. Food, gambling, video games, porn, pop, they all fall under the same conditions you listed. Its the persons personality.

Yes, but video games do not end up killing you. Porn does not ruin a teenagers life. Gambling is often a problem, and it's illegal in many countries. As is porn.

Regardless, this is the same selfish argument Josh put forward; just because one person can get away with something, it does not mean we should not concern for others.

Barone1551 11-19-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 783708)
Stop posting them stupid referances. No one gives a damn where you copy and paste from. It brings nothing to your view.

But they are scientific findings proving his point. Why shouldn't he post them? He has information to back up his opinion.

Tenchu 11-19-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshAussie (Post 783710)
What was it you always rant on about? The way of the warrior, the warriors spirit or something. hahaha. "I'm dependent on weed, even tho there is no medical evidence to support the theory that claims it's an addictive substance. I am remarkably mild:

Here he goes again...

Attack the comment, not the person, Josh. Regardless of how bad you are at it.

Actually, I started quiting weed when I was 14. I'd dropped out of school and sat down smoking and playing the PSone a lot. I played the Ninja game, Tenchu.

Eventually, I became inspired to start learning martial arts, and took up Ninjutsu and Kung Fu.

It was when I wanted to become better at these things that I knew I had to stop smoking. The only way to destroy one obsession was to take up another where the two were not compatible to co-exist.

I didn't manage to prooperly give up smoking until I was 15, but. Even though I'd tried desperately for several months as I wanted to become powerful, it was very hard.

I have many friends who would laugh so hard at you saying it isn't addictive. That's why I do not like your referances. There are freedom of speech laws in place in most countries; just because something is in a book, it does not mean for a moment it is true. You can write anything. I prefer experience.

Tenchu 11-19-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Barone1551 (Post 783711)
But they are scientific findings proving his point. Why shouldn't he post them? He has information to back up his opinion.

No, they're not scientific and he's wrong. I know he's wrong. He thinks it isn't addictive; it is.


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