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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 783920)

I still take issue with the 100% harmless stance.

Not a direct cause of death does NOT mean totally harmless. There are tons of things in the world that may not directly kill you, but which are still not harmless. Death is certainly not the only definition of "harm".

If someone wants to bring up World of Warcraft as an example of something more harmful than marijuana, I have to shake my head. WOW certainly isn`t directly causing anyone`s death either - just like marijuana doesn`t. What killed the WOW players was not the game, but exhaustion. I am completely sure that no one has "World of Warcraft" or "video games" listed as their cause of death.

But that still doesn`t mean there isn`t a potential to be harmful to that person`s life.

I agree that there is no real reason for it to be illegal. I will never say it is \harmless or that it is not at all addictive.

This is what I'm saying as well, but I feel like you think I'm saying something different. Nothing is "100% harmless"... not sure anyone said that it was totally harmless. (I've frequently said it's a 'victimless crime', but 100% harmless, no.)

Anything is potential dangerous, addictive, and could lead to someones death; but this does not merit its complete prohibition (especially when the benefits may out way the risks).

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Originally Posted by burkhartdesu (Post 783924)

This is what I'm saying as well, but I feel like you think I'm saying something different. Nothing is 100% harmless. Anything is potential dangerous, addictive, and could lead to someones death, but this does not merit its complete prohibition.

I wasn`t replying to you with that post. :) It was a reply to xyzone.

Anyway though - I support legalization, but I find it a bit hard to support someone when they say that it never harms anyone.

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 783925)

I wasn`t replying to you with that post. :) It was a reply to xyzone.

Anyway though - I support legalization, but I find it a bit hard to support someone when they say that it never harms anyone.

I've seen people in all walks of life who have let addiction ruin their lives.

Addiction is tragic, but education is key.

There's actually a anti-pot commercial by the Partnership for a Drug Free America that says something to the effect of:

"I smoked weed and nobody died.
I didn't get into a car accident, I didn't O.D. on heroin the next day, nothing happened.

(Shot widens to show the guy with two friends sitting on the couch)

We sat on Pete's couch for 11 hours.
Now what's going to happen on Pete's couch? Nothing.

(Shot now shows the guys on the couch in the middle of the woods with some mountain bikers riding by. Then to a basketball court. Then an ice rink.)

You have a better shot of dying out there in the real world, driving hard to the rim, ice skating with a girl. No, you wanna keep yourself alive, go over to Pete's and sit on his couch til you're 86.
Safest thing in the world. "

YouTube - Pete's Couch

Which I find to be slightly more honest, but unrealitic and hilarious since a lot of smokers I know are avid "outdoorsman" (could just be the Alaskan lifestyle)

Is this [commercial] sarcasm, or are they really acknowledging the lack of risks associated with it? They know kids are more educated these days, I suppose.

lol hilarious!

the "adults" who made that commercial obviously have no clue who their kids are.

Life kills you every time. Might as well enjoy it.:ywave:

Burkhartdesu, you left off probably the most important line of the commercial, "Me, I'll take my chances out there. Call me reckless."

I think this commercial is trying to tell the smokers, "Hey, this might not be doing anything bad to you, but there's something a lot better that you could be having" kind of thing. Hope that made sense...

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Originally Posted by darksyndrem (Post 784057)

But like I said, most of the recreational smokers I know are avid sportsman.

But teenagers, sure... they should be out playing sports and living life :rolleyes:

And in other news, a relatively new law was proposed to the U.S. Congress:

Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act of 2009 - Prohibits the imposition of any penalty under an Act of Congress for the possession of marijuana for personal use or for the not-for-profit transfer between adults of marijuana for personal use. Deems the possession of 100 grams or less of marijuana as personal use (one ounce or less for a not-for-profit transfer between adults). Allows the imposition of a civil penalty under the Controlled Substances Act for the public use of marijuana if such penalty does not exceed $100.

Read The Bill: H.R. 2943 - GovTrack.us

Yeah, people deemed underage by their society should NOT use pot.

But dog cartoons they play in America are not going to stop them while it's still cool-rebellion-weed, they will do the opposite.

Anyone who want's to use cannabis should be able to. If you want to stop babies from smoking then start a website telling people how bad it is. Print up shirts for all I care. Don't ask the state to fine and arrest people for it.

And if you were wondering, I do not smoke and certainly don't inhale.

"Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor liberty to purchase power."

and

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin, 1775

Gotta love the founding fathers.

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Originally Posted by futurebeast (Post 784681)

You really think 8-year-olds should have the right to smoke marijuana if they want to?