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hyuga666 12-09-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Salvanas (Post 787716)


I believe MMM's signature sums this all up for me.

umn ok... do you want to elucidate that mr. smartypants?

MMM 12-09-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hyuga666 (Post 787727)
nope, I am not considering to include a kanji. that would be kinda lame.

At least you know that much.

It sounds like it might be a yakuza-style tattoo.

I probably don't need to tell you that this would be bit of a red flag to any Japanese you might meet.

jesselt 12-09-2009 11:35 PM

So a tattoo with the number four, some chrysanthemums, and chopsticks sticking out of rice?

I don't get it.

Salvanas 12-09-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hyuga666 (Post 787729)
umn ok... do you want to elucidate that mr. smartypants?

Sounds like to me you want a tattoo in a symbol that has the meaning of death in Japan.

That's;

A: Stupid
B: Disrespectful to the Japanese.
C: Foolish

hyuga666 12-09-2009 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 787733)
At least you know that much.

It sounds like it might be a yakuza-style tattoo.

I probably don't need to tell you that this would be bit of a red flag to any Japanese you might meet.

I'm quite aware that when you have a sleeved arm, be it in old school western tattoo-style or traditional japanese, you might be considered as offensive or reminiscent of yakuza thugs when walking around in nippon or visiting an onsen. yet as far as I know, tats are getting more and more accepted there these days.

hyuga666 12-09-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jesselt (Post 787734)
So a tattoo with the number four, some chrysanthemums, and chopsticks sticking out of rice?

I don't get it.

yeah, that'd be purrfect!! :happybunny:

hyuga666 12-09-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Salvanas (Post 787735)


Sounds like to me you want a tattoo in a symbol that has the meaning of death in Japan.

That's;

A: Stupid
B: Disrespectful to the Japanese.
C: Foolish


A: why do you think that is stupid? death is all, but definitely not "stupid".
B: as I said before, to the older generation, tats seem offensive. but the japanese are getting more tolerant for this form of art.
C: maybe you are thinking of tats as foolish, well that is not my business. perhaps you have some shitty tribal on your shoulder and that is the reason why you're so pissed.

MMM 12-10-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hyuga666 (Post 787738)
I'm quite aware that when you have a sleaved arm, be it in old school western tattoo-style or traditional japanese, you might be considered as offensive or reminiscent of yakuza thugs when walking around in nippon or visiting an onsen. yet as far as I know, tats are getting more and more accepted there these days.

I think western-style tattoos are getting more accepted there among young people, but you still cannot get into onsens.

However, for the older generation tattoos are seen as disrespectful to one's parents. The body they give you is marked up with graffiti.

On top of that you are purposely choosing images that represent death. This is the same as saying "I want to die" as it could be seen as a death with. You are tempting fate. Another big red flag.

But what you do is your choice, I just thought you should know as much as you can before going under the needle.

Salvanas 12-10-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hyuga666 (Post 787741)
A: why do you think that is stupid? death is all, but definitely not "stupid".
B: as I said before, to the older generation, tats seem offensive. but the japanese are getting more tolerant for this form of art.
C: maybe you are thinking of tats as foolish, well that is not my business. perhaps you have some shitty tribal on your shoulder and that is the reason why you're so pissed.

OH dear. The ignorance is thick in this one.

Tolerant or not, it's still disrespectful to their culture. It's a foolish thing to do, because you're taking something that signifies DEATH to a culture, and printing that onto your body.

It's got nothing to do with me having a tattoo, I haven't even got one. And I could care less if people have one or not. As long as it isn't something like what you're doing.

Stop being a twit now.

hyuga666 12-10-2009 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 787745)
I think western-style tattoos are getting more accepted there among young people, but you still cannot get into onsens.

However, for the older generation tattoos are seen as disrespectful to one's parents. The body they give you is marked up with graffiti.

On top of that you are purposely choosing images that represent death. This is the same as saying "I want to die" as it could be seen as a death with. You are tempting fate. Another big red flag.

But what you do is your choice, I just thought you should know as much as you can before going under the needle.

I believe that goes for most parents in western countries too... back in their days, tats were some kind of stigma for jailbirds. but this has changed since the 1990s, and the same development has at least started in nippon as far as I know. the recently published book "tattoo in japan" (from 2008) shows a lot of young artists who are getting more aware of the traditional tattooing as a national heritage... its kinda interesting.
I do not want to say "I wanna die", I only want some complement to the rest of my arm, that is tattooed in a rather life-affirming style.


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