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forgotenmemory 01-02-2010 04:41 AM

Bible Manga
 
THE FIRST ENGLISH MANGA ADAPTATION OF THE BIBLE

It's weird, yet interesting. Would you read it?

Kakashi 01-02-2010 04:44 AM

maybe, but I'd read the actual Bible before I read the manga version.

Tenchu 01-02-2010 05:26 AM

That's dumb.

MMM 01-02-2010 05:34 AM

Just to be clear, the "author"/artist, Siku is not Japanese, but is a Englishman with roots in Nigeria.

There is nothing "manga" about "The Manga Bible". It is the bible in visual form (though only selected stories).

If you want to read the Bible in graphic form, I would recommend this:

http://www.dangerousminds.net/index....e_crumb_bible/

Payne222 01-02-2010 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 792866)
Just to be clear, the "author"/artist, Siku is not Japanese, but is a Englishman with roots in Nigeria.

There is nothing "manga" about "The Manga Bible". It is the bible in visual form (though only selected stories).

If you want to read the Bible in graphic form, I would recommend this:

http://www.dangerousminds.net/index....e_crumb_bible/

Doesn't "manga" mean comic? Not specifically Japanese comics?

MMM 01-02-2010 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Payne222 (Post 792870)
Doesn't "manga" mean comic? Not specifically Japanese comics?

Considering it is a book written in English by an Englishman, and has nothing to do with Japanese culture, it makes as much sense to call it "The Manga Bible" as it does to call it "The Manhua Bible" or "The Manhwa Bible".

SleepAddict 01-02-2010 08:56 AM

Interesting but no, I'll stick to messianic torah.

Mortry 01-02-2010 09:11 AM

Awesome!:p I'd totally read it, although I don't believe the stories in it...xD

yuriyuri 01-02-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 792872)
Considering it is a book written in English by an Englishman, and has nothing to do with Japanese culture, it makes as much sense to call it "The Manga Bible" as it does to call it "The Manhua Bible" or "The Manhwa Bible".

Some people call things manga not by who drew/wrote the piece in question, or even by the language it is written in, but by the general art style.
Going by that it does make sense to call it manga.
And since we all know language is a living thing there is no denying that this is quite a wide spread usage in English now.
(At least, I hear it used like this all the time)

It may be technically incorrect but language isn't produced by dictionaries and grammar rules etc. so maybe this is in actual fact a new correct usage that people are just going that have to get used to, like it or not.

Razgriz 01-02-2010 01:28 PM

Main power of the Bible is in words since they can be explained in many different ways - they are so called parables. Thats why trying to turn those words into comic is just devaluation.

Columbine 01-02-2010 03:02 PM

The Crumb work aside, I always am a little sad to see books turned into comics the same way I am TV series episodes turned into books because the translation into a different media usually doesn't work well. I once picked up a 'manga' version of Hamlet. They'd condensed his best soliloquy down to little more than "To be or not to be- That is the question. To die, to sleep. To sleep perchance to dream. Thus conscience makes cowards of us all."

darksyndrem 01-02-2010 06:43 PM

I doubt it's very accurate anyhow.

Mortry 01-02-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by darksyndrem (Post 792914)
I doubt it's very accurate anyhow.

It's the idea that counts:p I'd love to see Kung Fu Action Jesus in a manga:D

MMM 01-02-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by yuriyuri (Post 792885)
Some people call things manga not by who drew/wrote the piece in question, or even by the language it is written in, but by the general art style.
Going by that it does make sense to call it manga.
And since we all know language is a living thing there is no denying that this is quite a wide spread usage in English now.
(At least, I hear it used like this all the time)

It may be technically incorrect but language isn't produced by dictionaries and grammar rules etc. so maybe this is in actual fact a new correct usage that people are just going that have to get used to, like it or not.

However, "manga" is not an art style. Just like saying "cinema" is not an art style.

Nothing in the style of the book would imply that the author was from Japan or trying to imitate anything from Japan. The title is a marketing ploy, pure and simple.

noodle 01-02-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 792927)
However, "manga" is not an art style. Just like saying "cinema" is not an art style.

A lot of people think of Japanese Comic style when you say Manga, though! Might not be the correct usage, but it is used nonetheless!

yuriyuri 01-02-2010 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 792927)
However, "manga" is not an art style. Just like saying "cinema" is not an art style.

And I completely agree, but you seem to be overlooking the fact that I did not say that manga is a style.
(Read my first sentence carefully)
I said that people use the word manga based on the general art style of the pictures.
Basically when I look at the pictures it looks to me like it is more influenced by art styles in manga, hence why people call it manga, and why it makes sense.
By using the word manga I knew exactly what to expect before I even looked at it.

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 792927)
Nothing in the style of the book would imply that the author was from Japan or trying to imitate anything from Japan.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree then.

I mean, nothing makes me think the author is from Japan
(But then again, if it weren't for mangas being in Japanese, nothing would make me think the authors of Japanese mangas are from Japan either)

But from what I can see they look like they are obviously trying to copy a style that you would find in a manga as opposed to say, an American comic.

MMM 01-02-2010 09:10 PM

I don't think you are hearing me, Yuriyuri. If the artist was imitating the style of artwork that he had seen in Japanese manga, then I could understand the thinking behind the title. However, the style of the art in the book itself is distinct to Siku, and is unmistakably Western. Therefore calling it a "manga bible" is a misnomer on more than one level.

yuriyuri 01-02-2010 09:16 PM

I don't think you are hearing me, and so I would have to say the same to you MMM.
The art to me looks like something I would see in a manga, and I would not call it "unmistakably Western".

At this point I think I will just stop and say, there is no point in us continuing our discussion, since I have made up my mind, and you have yours, and I would rather get back to studying Japanese :)

Although I think we could both agree that once again we can see just how subjective art really is (If it is in fact "art" to you lol) ;)

Aniki 01-03-2010 01:37 AM

Reminds me of that 'Buddy Christ' scene from Dogma.


manganimefan227 01-03-2010 07:03 AM

Honestly putting it in manga form almost makes the Bible seem like a joke . . .Yet a way to teach the youth and otaku population the Bible in a way they approve . . .

Kakashi 01-03-2010 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by manganimefan227 (Post 793010)
Honestly putting it in manga form almost makes the Bible seem like a joke . . .Yet a way to teach the youth and otaku population the Bible in a way they approve . . .

maybe the Bible is a joke to some people...

MMM 01-03-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kakashi (Post 793014)
maybe the Bible is a joke to some people...

Let's keep the conversation to the original topic. religious discussions are against the rules.


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