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Sinestra 01-14-2010 07:03 PM

i wonder if the whale had been the one to sink or damage the boat would there be as much fuss.

Jaydelart 01-14-2010 07:18 PM

When/how did they get their hands on one of Batman's boats???
Last time I heard of them, they were throwing piss at people... lol


Satire aside ~ even if the direction of travel and level of speed could be determined by the surrounding waves and position of the vessels, regardless of who is the offender, it seems pretty logically sound to me that a larger, more sluggish ship would have a hard time ramming a smaller, more agile one... unless the smaller boat was being irresponsible and/or reckless -- or more subjectively: dishonest.

I like whales too, and I would prefer that they were not hunted at this scale; However, I still disagree with the protestors' methods. If they were to do anything on a physical level, they should probably do it more gracefully. Seeking sympathy from the media can get tricky when you're caught hurling bodily fluids at people and illegally boarding their ships like pirates.

Just sayin'.

Aquilus 01-14-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaydelart (Post 795125)
When/how did they get their hands on one of Batman's boats???

I wondered about that too the last thing i would expect is Greenpeace dudes driving around in a 1.5 million boat. Don't they usually chain themselves to trees?

And come on, the little agile speedboat was rammed by the big sluggish whaling ship?
There 2 possibilities, the fist is the speedboat captain is a complete idiot,
or they stopped in front of them or something like that so the whaling ship should not move on.
Of cause the whaling ship wouldn't have seen the necessarily to stop in this case ;-)

fatalbert130 01-14-2010 11:36 PM

I watched a taken video from three seats of ships (AG,BB,SHOUNANMARU).

Each ship advances at an angle unlike different speed.

AG runs at high speed SHOUNANMARU and one minute to collide ago. AG ran with BB then. And, as for AG, slow fell in the side of the course of SHOUNANMARU. A long trail of AG comes out in the taken video from SHOUNANMARU.

When SHOUNANMARU approached, AG accelerated.

There is BB before SHOUNANMARU to block up the course of SHOUNANMARU.
BB does not stop.

Therefore SHOUNANMARU seems to have hit it on AG on the video which SS took from BB.

YouTube - Last moments of the Ady Gill before being rammed by Shonan Maru No. 2
YouTube - Sea Shepard's Ady Gil deliberately rammed by Shonan Maru No. 2
YouTube - Ady Gil loses bow to Japanese whaling vessel
YouTube - 沈没? 漂流するAdy Gil号 / The Ady Gil left drifting in Antarctic Ocean
YouTube - Sea Shepherd / Ady Gil - the continuum - PropagandaBuster

Ryzorian 01-15-2010 03:27 AM

Personally I have never seen a whale. I live in Iowa, 1500 miles from any ocean. So I have no real argument about whaleing, as long as populations are maintained I dont see why the fuss. I also think the folks who are anti whaleing can go way too far in how they protest things. I dont mind them protesting, but they dont have to be childish about it. It's just like those folks who spike trees to keep them from being cut down, that can kill a logger if thier chain snaps on that spike.

WhoIsDaffy 01-15-2010 05:46 PM

thing is.

if SS really wanted to stop whaling, they should just scuttle the japanese whaling fleet (note this can be done without loss of life)

if the Japanese wanted to really protect thier whaling ships then it is well within the new remit of the Japanese Navy to use force against SS
(provided the gov, agree'd to clasify SS as a terrorist or gurilla group)

the J navy is able to now engage targets outside japanese waters in order to protect its interests from the afore mentioned threats

fluffy0000 01-16-2010 01:13 AM

again sorta not
 
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you sir are a couple cans short of a six pack.

Ryzorian 01-16-2010 05:21 AM

He's not incorrect in stateing Japan, or any fleet for that matter, who is harrassed by these guys, could legally sink said offender.

Salvanas 01-16-2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryzorian (Post 795293)
He's not incorrect in stateing Japan, or any fleet for that matter, who is harrassed by these guys, could legally sink said offender.

Oh how I'd love to see that happen to see, and then see the chaos erupt after.

Hell, I think I might get a boat and go and harass SS really. Would be interesting to see how they react.

WhoIsDaffy 01-16-2010 03:06 PM

well they would not be the first.

the Norwegian navy has used guns, depth charges and ramming against SS


but yea, someone would kick off, and it would certainly make the news


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