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clintjm 02-01-2010 09:38 PM

Possibility of Nuclear Weapons on the Island?
 
Japan to Come Clean on Secret Nuke Deals With U.S. - Asia | Travel | Map - FOXNews.com

Japan to Come Clean on Secret Nuke Deals With U.S.

"The 1969 document, signed by Sato and President Richard Nixon, showed they agreed that U.S.-occupied Okinawa would be returned to Japan, but the U.S. would retain the right to have nuclear weapons on the island if the necessity arose. The agreements on Okinawa were a key part of the secret pacts that also covered U.S. warships entering ports throughout Japan."

"Japanese today are more shocked by the cover-up than by the deed itself, but they remain attached to the non-nuclear principle."


Think things could change?

IamKira 02-01-2010 11:54 PM

fox news can suck it.
officially renaming it foxPROPAGANDA.

clintjm 02-02-2010 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamKira (Post 797959)
fox news can suck it.
officially renaming it foxPROPAGANDA.

If you haven't got anything to contribute to on the topic, then you are off topic.

Guess you think the Associated Press "can suck it" too.
Which is fine, but you would still be off topic.

Fox News haters remind me of weak minded Nazis burning books.

manganimefan227 02-02-2010 01:06 AM

He's trying to make a point, (If that's where you got it from) That it is not somthing to panic over based on the source (maybe)

xyzone 02-02-2010 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clintjm (Post 797962)
If you haven't got anything to contribute to on the topic, then you are off topic.

Guess you think the Associated Press "can suck it" too.
Which is fine, but you would still be off topic.

Fox News haters remind me of weak minded Nazis burning books.

So link to AP instead. Nobody of much consequence respects foxlies anywhere.

IamKira 02-02-2010 01:28 AM

besides that, the u.s. has had nukes positioned all over the world, including the seas around Japan (they're called nuclear subs) so if they're on the mainland, woopdie doo.
is this really news to anyone?
several countries around the world host nukes in remote locations

nice cat with a puzzle xy! (I am going off topic again :O ... i am so evil :) mwahahahahaaaaaa)

termogard 02-02-2010 02:27 AM

remote locations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IamKira (Post 797981)
besides that, the u.s. has had nukes positioned all over the world, including the seas around Japan (they're called nuclear subs) so if they're on the mainland, woopdie doo.
is this really news to anyone?
several countries around the world host nukes in remote locations

SLBMs aren't the same as ICBMs deployed on mainland. SLBMs are part of heavy underwater carrier (submarine) which belongs to certain country of so-called Nuclear Club
When you place nuclear weapon on a territory of some foreign country, you automatically convert this territory into a target for possible nuclear counter-attack. Plain and simple. I don't think Japan would be happy to become a primary target for Russian/Chinese/North Korean ICBMs armed by nuclear and thermo-nuclear warheads just for the sake of American interests.

MMM 02-02-2010 02:34 AM

I am in Japan now, and this is the first I am hearing of this.

I am not sure what you mean by "Do you think things could change?"

IamKira 02-02-2010 02:42 AM

@termogard
how do you think it will become a target?
give me one instance where a country has been attacked by another gov't whilst that country has held nuclear weapons... the u.s. has attacked thousands of tiny islands in the pacific and inherently killed off small tribes all over the place. did they have nukes? no - has the u.s. ever attacked.. say, russia whilst they have harbored nuclear arsenal?

nukes are simply a deferment strategists tool. they are never intended to be used. because of second strike capability a country that has nukes is ensured to be kept safe from a nuclear attack. attacking a country with second strike capabilities leads to a least desirable outcome for all players involved and will inevitably seek out peaceful tactics (softpower) as a result

and of course there are technical differences, but in the end, both icbm's and slbm's are fired from one location, strike another location delivering a nuclear payload and annihilate lots and lots of lives.

termogard 02-02-2010 03:11 AM

targets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IamKira (Post 797994)
@termogard
how do you think it will become a target?
give me one instance where a country has been attacked by another gov't whilst that country has held nuclear weapons...

Yes, that's why it will be possible target for nuclear counter-attack". Only in case of war, of course.
I bet you know about concepts of "First strike" and "Second strike" and "Massive retaliation".

According to *Second strike* and *Massive retaliation* concepts, all targets which provided launches of ICBMs during the operation *First strike* must be attacked in response.


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